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steevo — Tue, 17 May 2011 08:29:07 -0700

Hey guys,

I've decided that I want to put together a compilation of super short stories on a topic that I like to write about: people who are out of place. I'm looking for submissions of 1000 words or less on the topic by June 30th. The details that I've worked out so far are available at my blog for now. If you have any questions for me, you can email them to steevo83 {at} gmail {dot} com, or leave a message at the Intimate Knowledge site. I can also answer questions here if it's easier. I'll try to update the website with any changes that I make to the rules/details.

If'n you'd like to submit a piece, please read all the rules listed on the blog and then email your submission to me at the address above. I hope to receive enough of these to fill a decent sized book.

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Fauxhammer — Tue, 17 May 2011 08:59:45 -0700

Hmmmm. HMMMMMM.

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Beamish — Tue, 17 May 2011 09:39:49 -0700

I say hold a competition for a ten word our less story for the back cover.

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Sonny — Tue, 17 May 2011 10:03:43 -0700

Might have to take a crack at this. Been a while since I put down the novel and worked on a short for submission to someone else.

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Vornaskotti — Tue, 17 May 2011 10:39:18 -0700

Challenge accepted.

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steevo — Tue, 17 May 2011 10:46:37 -0700

Nice, I can't wait to read some of these.

@Beamish - That might not be a bad idea. Consider it considered.

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Beamish — Tue, 17 May 2011 11:06:01 -0700

Woohoo, it starts tonight. The general concept, people out of place, that if the boundary. Like a moose st a poultry farm?

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steevo — Tue, 17 May 2011 11:26:12 -0700

@Beamish - Haha, interpret it as you will, I left the parameters vague for a reason.

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HEY APATHY! — Tue, 17 May 2011 12:20:30 -0700

I’d try writing one, doubt it would fit in though...

my ^10 werds

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steevo — Tue, 17 May 2011 12:53:14 -0700

@HEY APATHY - The limit for this is 1000 words. More info at the website.

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HEY APATHY! — Tue, 17 May 2011 20:41:04 -0700

@ STEEVO, what I meant was

I’d try writing one, doubt it would fit in though...

was my entry for BEAMISH'S 10 word suggestion, obviously I'm not much for communicating ideas with words and will stick to scribbles. Love the premise though ,good luck

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D.J. — Tue, 17 May 2011 20:47:45 -0700

Unfortunately, it was a church, not a brothel.

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steevo — Wed, 18 May 2011 08:59:03 -0700

@HEY APATHY - Heh, please excuse my density, I feel a fool.

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HEY APATHY! — Wed, 18 May 2011 09:27:20 -0700

@ DJ Stawes - and yet you recognized everyone there, these stories are supposed to be about not fitting in!

@ steevo- giggles

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steevo — Wed, 18 May 2011 10:10:06 -0700

Oh, I forgot to mention that I'll probably also be asking for cover art at some point so if any artists are interested, stay tuned and I'll give more info on that as I come up with it.

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steevo — Mon, 30 May 2011 10:17:06 -0700

Just a reminder that the deadline for this is in about one month. Also, I think I'm going to post one of mine on my website within the next couple of days. I'll put a link to it here if anyone is interested in reading it.

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steevo — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 09:48:49 -0700

Into the Stream is up on my site. I know some of you guys can blow me out of the water on these, but this was a fun piece for me.

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HEY APATHY! — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:52:35 -0700

@ Steevo - trippy! A nice bit of dreamy dark story-telling.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:18:03 -0700

@steevo: Just sent you a story - Goodbye Alley. Hope it's along the lines of what you're looking for.

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steevo — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 07:03:02 -0700

@Alan - The first submission I've received. And it's the best so far! Seriously though, really, really good stuff, Alan. Consider it in 'der. Thanks.

And thank you, @HEY APATHY, (or should I just call you Mike for short?) it was off the cuff, but I liked where it took me.

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 07:44:13 -0700

Thanks, Steve! Glad you like it!

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steevo — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:48:12 -0700

Just a reminder on this, since it seemed like at least a couple of people were interested:

There are 15 days left to submit something for this compilation.

You can send submissions of 1000 words or less about "People out of place" to me a steevo83 [at] gmail [dot] com

View further details at my blog: http://intimateknowledge.blogspot.com/2011/05/short-story-compilation.html

I've already put one of my shorts up previously and I posted one more today: There and Back

I hope to get a few more stories from you clever people.

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Beamish — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:42:56 -0700

I wrote one that I don't like and haven't had a chance to bleed another. I'll see if I can dream something else up.

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steevo — Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:52:22 -0700

@Beamish - I fervently await.

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Vornaskotti — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:07:00 -0700

Alright, submitted my piece before the Greek sun melts away the rest of my brain.

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steevo — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:46:08 -0700

Sounds good! I've got an incredibly busy two days ahead of me, but I will be settling in to read everything probably Sunday morning.

@Vornaskotti - Would you mind sending me a short bio for yourself ~200 words?

Anyone else wanting to submit, there are six days remaining. If you do submit a piece, please include a bio for yourself of around 200 words. It's something I forgot to mention before, but I'd really like to be able to give all the authors their own little "about" section.

The submissions I've already read are great and I hope to get a couple more in. I'm up to 10 shorts myself, with at least 5, hopefully 10 more coming in the next week or two.

If I've forgotten anything, I apologize. Any questions, just ask.

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Alan Tyson — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:03:12 -0700

Steevo, I completely forget, did I send you my short bio? I can't seem to find record of me doing so in my e-mail.

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steevo — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 07:27:15 -0700

@Alan - I don't think so, just give me a quick one when you get a chance. Thanks, man.

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luckycreature — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:21:39 -0700

@steevo story sent. Hope it gets in.

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steevo — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:29:24 -0700

@Luckycreature - Got it and sent a reply to you a couple of days ago. Just wanted to let you know, "The Morning News" is definitely in.

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luckycreature — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:49:09 -0700

@steevo
Awesome. Looking forward to the collection.

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eDave — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:31:44 -0700

10 line story

thinking of home, he turned his face to the stars.

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steevo — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:52:46 -0700

I was thinking that I might put all of the 10 word entries on the back cover, not sure about that idea yet. And just to reiterate, today is the final day for submissions. I've received eight so far and I think I have a couple more coming today. I may extend the deadline a couple of weeks if there is any interest. Sooo, if you want to write a short for this collection and haven't yet, please let me know.

@Everyone who has submitted so far - I've been getting some excellent stories from you lot and I can't wait until everything is compiled and ready to shoot out into the world. I'm going to make both a printed collection and a downloadable version on Lulu. If anyone has any formatting suggestions or last minute edits they want to make to their stories, let me know. Thank you all for the submissions, you guys rock.

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steevo — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:15:01 -0700

PS. I think we should not be putting up original works, no matter how short (even 10 words) on the boards here, so if you could send those to me personally, either as a comment on my blog (www.intimateknowledge.blogspot.com) or, preferably, in an email to steevo83 [at] gmail [dot] com, that would probably be better.

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RobSpalding — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:02:53 -0700

Crap, forgot all about this. If you can extend it a bit I will deliver something by that deadline. Even if you only add one day.

I need deadlines. I miss deadlines. (Is that weird?)

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Morac — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:31:27 -0700

30 words to brutally murder and dissolve their corpses in acid, and counting. I will get this thing under 1000.

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Beamish — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:37:52 -0700

Right, so I finally got my new story idea, now to write and send it in the next 5 and a half hours. It's go time,

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steevo — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:26:34 -0700

Sounds good, guys.

I'm not going to turn you away if you're one day late. Just get it to me ASAP. I can't wait to read a few more of these.

Talk to you all soon.

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Beamish — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:44:07 -0700

E-mailed.

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steevo — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:37:45 -0700

@Beamish - Got it.

@Morac - Can't wait to see what you've got for me.

@Anyone else - I'm just compiling and editing right now, so if you want to send one in, go for it.

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Morac — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:29:14 -0700

Just got some editorial feedback, doing a bit of final reworking before I submit. I did get a little distracted by my ceiling suddenly leaking water everywhere, but that's mostly taken care of now.

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RobSpalding — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:02:17 -0700

I mad rushed a short one based on an old gag with added backstory and extra evilness.
The I went silly with my bio because I absolutely hate doing them. I have a plan for a non-rushed job. Just trying to see if it will come under 1000 words right now.

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Morac — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:23:04 -0700

Signed, sealed, delivered, it's yours, Steevo.

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steevo — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:29:03 -0700

Hey ya'll. I'm happy to report that I've received 17 short stories from many and varied sources. I'll be adding about 15 of my own. That's 32+ stories gonna be kickin through. I'm as happy as a pig in shit with how this has worked out so far. It's going to take a couple of months to get everything laid out and edited, but I'll keep you all posted here and at my website (http://intimateknowledge.blogspot.com/).

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Alan Tyson — Sat, 09 Jul 2011 07:28:23 -0700

@steevo - will you take multiple submissions from one writer? 'cuz I've got some ideations formulatin' in my braintanks.

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steevo — Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:30:39 -0700

@Alan - Absolutely, as long as I get them before I do the final layout, I'll include them.

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luckycreature — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:40:24 -0700

any news on this?

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steevo — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:41:30 -0700

Glad you asked and sorry about the delay in response. As of right now, I'm just about done with initial edits on the stories (just little grammatical stuff here and there). I still want to write one or two more of these myself, so if anyone is interested in sending another story, feel free, I can still include them. By next Sunday I want to be ready to start laying it out into it's final form. That'll probably take me about a week or so. After that we're technically ready to publish.

If anyone has any cover ideas they'd like to contribute, I'd love to see them. I refuse to put a generic cover on this book. Failing getting submissions, I have a few ideas for photos that might work as a cover.

Thanks for the patience on this, guys. I should be on this thread a bunch more in the near future.

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Yskaya — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:39:51 -0700

Steevo: lost things as a theme sounds interesting. I happen to have an idea for a cover. What is the deadline for the mag? and the specs (size, title, text that needs to be on there?) My inbox (cs dot denouden at gmail dot com) awaits yon answer. That is, if you're still in search of a cover artist.

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steevo — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:21:18 -0700

@Yskaya - Awesome! I've somehow become slightly drunk today (is that unprofessional?), so I will email you specifics tomorrow.

I'll also post those specifics up here in case anyone else wants to send a submission. Hell, maybe I'll get really ambitious and make alternate cover versions available if I get a bunch of cool stuff...

Now to continue my drunk. I'll talk to you all on the morrow.

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Alan Tyson — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:26:16 -0700

Steevo, check your email! I just sent you a bio and another short (short short SHORT) story.

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steevo — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:10:06 -0700

@Alan - Got it! Thanks.

@All -

These are the parameters I sent to Yskaya, if anyone else is interested.

The cover is going to be for a 6x9 book through Lulu. As far as I know, that's the size that the image will be. I'm not really sure how one deals with bleeds and trims and things like that. The following site is kind of a walkthrough on how to develop a cover for this size of book: http://www.athleticaid.com/yaquinapress/CoverExamples.html, if you're interested. I read through it once and was slightly dumbfounded.

Anywho, the text on the cover should be "Out of Place, Out of Time: An Odd Collection of Short Stories"

The deadline is not a set in stone thing, but I should be coming to the end of doing the book layout a couple of weeks from now. Let's say August 15th.

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allana — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:56:33 -0700

hi steevo! do you need/want editing help? because i'd love to go over some stories, if you'd like. let me know, and i'll email you.

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steevo — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:52:09 -0700

Hey allana,

I've done a decent amount of the editing already. I'm really only looking to correct grammar and spelling errors, not make any changes to the stories themselves. That said, I could always use an extra set of eyes on this stuff. I'm sure I've missed a few things here and there. You can email me at steevo83 [at] gmail and I'll forward some of them your way.

PS. If anyone has, for any reason, a problem with someone other than me looking at their story before it goes into the book, let me know and I'll withhold it until the book comes out.

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steevo — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:12:05 -0700

Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd update you on the progress with this.

As of right now, we've got 30 stories: 12 by me and 18 by the rest of you beautiful bastards. I think I'm going to do five more, I have ideas for three. Those should be done within a week or two.

I've also read all of your stories and they're fantastic. If I had anything I was slightly confused about, I contacted you and you got back to me. I've done the initial edits on all of them, which isn't to say I'm completely done editing, but I think I've gotten the hard part out of the way.

I've started doing the layout of the book, how I'm doing it is this:
1) Laying everything out in Word, getting font sizes and types uniform, setting up spacing, writing up a table of contents, getting the page numbers right, including all author bios, writing a copyright page, and a bunch of other little stuff that is always a pain, but ya know...I asked for it.
2) Converting everything to PDF and uploading to Lulu's site.
3) Uploading the cover.
4) Book!

I'm going to make this available in 6x9 paperback and ebook. Is anyone interested in any other formats?

Any advice for me on this? Any questions? Anything at all. You can get me here or at steevo83 [at] gmail [dot] com

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Beamish — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:47:15 -0700

Steve, my semester just finished and I am not smashing information in any longer, if you will taking another week would you mind if I pull another yarn my the ole brain pan?

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steevo — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:15:53 -0700

Sure, man, load em up. I'll add it in as long as it's done before my last one. You should have at least another week.

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steevo — Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:14:17 -0700

Hey guys, just want to keep you updated on this, since I'm behind schedule. I had to pick up a second job because I can't afford to pay rent with my shitty first one, so life has been a little more hectic lately. I want you to know that I'm still working on this, it's just a little slower going than I had anticipated, due to a lot more work related crap. Anyway, I'm still figuring out my schedule so I don't want to give you a hard date that I'll wantonly ignore, I'm hoping this will be ready for print "soon." As always, if you need to contact me, just email or leave a message here or on my blog.

Email: steevo83 at gmail dot com
Blog: intimateknowledge dot blogspot dot com

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Vornaskotti — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 04:27:09 -0700

stEELSvo:

That definitely sucks, but hey, good luck with the new job! And if there's anything I can help you with, drop me a line!

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steevo — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:40:48 -0700

@Vornaskotti - Thanks, but I think I'm good for now, just making the going a little slower. I'll let you know if I think of anything to expedite the process though.

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steevo — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:47:45 -0700

Hey guys, I'm trying to get the legal crap for this out of the way now... does this look ok? If anyone wants changes or has a better way of wording this, please let me know:

No Part of this book may be used or reproduced by anyone, other than the authors, without written permission except in the case of brief quotations embodied in critical articles or reviews. For more information contact Steven Ormosi at steevo83@gmail.com.

All authors retain full rights regarding sale and permission to their own works. If you wish to reprint any story contained herein, please seek permission from that story’s author through the editor at steevo83@gmail.com.

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Alan Tyson — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:36:18 -0700

Looks alright to me.

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steevo — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:33:00 -0700

Also this, here is the full list of stories, taken from the copyright page:

Individual Stories Copyright © by their respective authors:
“Survival for Beginners”, “Home… Away From Home”, “The Grind”, “Backdoor Prophet”, “A New One”, “Terror and a Ferris Wheel”, “Eulogy”, “Release Date”, “A Grand Spectacle”, “Into the Stream”, “The Librarian”, “There and Back”, “Wrongfully Raptured”, “Strange Things to Good People”, “Pudding Fight Club” and “Behind the Curtain” © 2011 Steven Ormosi
“Exit Empathy/Enter Entropy”, “Ready/Wonderful Wishes” and “I Won’t Bite” © 2011 Scott Thurlow
“Wednesday Morning, 2010”, “A Simple Question” and “ADD” © 2011 J. Ian Manczur
“Transition” and “Out of Place, My Darling” © 2011 Kathy Ormosi
“Goodbye Alley” and “In My Country” © 2011 Allan Tyson
“How She Danced” © 2011 Steve Toase
“Initiation” © 2011 Rob Spalding
“Something Rex” © 2011 Adrian Reynolds
“Little Red Box” © 2011 Jason Beamish
“Morning News” © 2011 Shawn Scott Smith
“At the Division of Motor Vehicles” © 2011 Jeff Jamieson
“Walking Past My Life” © 2011 Janos Honkonen
“Everything” © 2011 D. Max Loy

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Alan Tyson — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:09:41 -0700

Looks good, though there's only one "l" in my name ;)

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Beamish — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:46:52 -0700

Quick content question for proper pimping, are any of the stories 'questionable' for general audiances?

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steevo — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:12:20 -0700

@Alan - Sorry! Typo. That will be fixed immediately.

@Beamish - Yeah, I'd say so. There are a few stories with sexual content, some have pretty strong language...also, I have a guy's head get ripped off and a mutant baby abomination crawl through the neckhole.

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Beamish — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:20:55 -0700

Ok, good to know.

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luckycreature — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:00:03 -0700

Excited. Can feel it getting closer to release. Makes me want to put down the paint brush and write some more!

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steevo — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:20:27 -0700

Hey guys. I know I've been saying this is getting close for forever, and it is. I could sit here and make excuses for hours, but I've been busy, there it is, that's my excuse. Sorry, I know I'm lettin' ya down. Anyway, I am making slow progress. One thing I definitely need is a cover though. I've got nothin yet. The book is going to be 6x9, if anyone wants to take a crack at it that'd be awesome. If we get more than one I'll post them all on the Facebook page.

PS. I started a FB page. So you know, start liking, or whatever it is you kids do these days.

PPS. I also posted one more of my stories on my site at http://intimateknowledge.blogspot.com/2011/10/grand-spectacle.html

PPPS. If anyone has any of their stories posted online and they want them to be available for preview via the FB page, send me a link and I'll link them on the page.

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Beamish — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:38:42 -0700

I have a friend interested in the cover, do you have anything specific in mind?

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steevo — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:25:01 -0700

I had some ideas but I threw them out because they were specific to a couple of stories and I didn't want to give service to any certain part of the book. Really I'd just like something that captures the overall feeling of being out of place...that's pretty much the only requirement I have right now content wise. Just let your friend know that it has to look ok on a 6x9 page.
ETA: Oh and the cover text needs to be Out of Place, Out of Time: An Odd Collection of Short Stories

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steevo — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:30:58 -0800

I know it's been a long time, but the book is ready for print. I just still need a cover, unless you guys want me to use the placeholder I put up on FB, I think we can get something better, but I dunno. What does everyone think?

Please view the message above for specs if you are interested in doing a cover.

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flecky — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:11:30 -0800

This looks great.Reckon i will want a copy of the end product when it is out.Why didn't i notice this thread earlier?

Good luck all.

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Morac — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:02:18 -0800

Huzzah for books!

Given the amount of really talented artists we have here, I'm surprised that more of them haven't spoken up.

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Vornaskotti — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:43:10 -0800

Actually, if you'd like to do a small favor, please make some noise about the anthology Facebook page and ask your pals, loved ones and enemies to like it to get the word out: https://www.facebook.com/OutOfPlaceOutOfTime

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steevo — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:32:06 -0800

@Morac - We've actually had a few people say they were going to contribute to the cover, so I've given them till next week to send something in.

Also, what Vornaskotti said, the more buzz we can get going about the book, the better.

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flecky — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:52:38 -0800

If i can i will make some flyers and put them on counters on comic shops and cafes around London.
I'm not up to scratch with my art so i will have to keep it simple.Would that be ok?Probably better if someone designed something classy on here so i could just print them out at work.That sounds a better option.

Has the book got a intro?I know little about legal issues but a few words from someone recognised in the community would help it sell.Just my opinion.

I'm really excited about this.

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Vornaskotti — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:02:14 -0800

flecky:

That doesn't sound half bad, actually - the flyers and such. It's a shame we won't be getting the book before Christmas, but when we actually have something to sell, that kind of grassroots level marketing is a-okay!

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steevo — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:24:11 -0800

@Flecky - The flyers are a great idea, though I'm horrible with art too. Anyone want to have a go at designing something? We should probably leave off that until I get all the online purchasing info so we can throw that on there too. Should be mid to late next week everything gets uploaded to the sites (that is Lulu and Amazon for the Kindle).

In terms of the intro, I wrote a short one that's in there. Not sure if we have time/what the interest would be for someone established in the writing community to write something, though I'm thinking about doing a follow up book in the future, so perhaps if this one does alright, we'll get something like that next time.

Thanks for the input, I'm always looking for new ideas and ways to get this stuff out to the people. I'll update everyone more on this as publishing time draws nearer.

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Steve Toase — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:34:03 -0800

If you do get flyers done I'll take some. I do a few open mic nights and can leave them around as table spam

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steevo — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:52:29 -0800

Hey all, book's done. Now I just need to approve a proof copy and it'll be ready for purchase. Eat this tasty cover in the meantime, prepared by visual chef, Alan Tyson:

Just so's ya know, if you've been working on any kind of cover for this project, I'm still looking for art for the Kindle version and the Lulu epub version, so don't think this puts you out of the race to get your art on this bad boy.

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Morac — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:04:40 -0800

That is one super cool cover. And not just because my name is on it.

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RobSpalding — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:58:55 -0800

I like that cover.
This is all starting to look a lot classier than my trashy little story in it.
Ah well, every collection needs a tramp I guess.

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steevo — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:17:43 -0800

All the stories in the book are fantastic, Rob. No fair being self-deprecating, that's my shtick... even though I'm not very good at it.

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taphead — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:32:48 -0800

Nice cover, though you've got a typo on Vorn's name. It's "Honkonen", unless he's going by a pseudonym...

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steevo — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:32:19 -0800

Yeah, that was a miss by me. A fix is already in the works, thanks for the heads up.

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Alan Tyson — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 13:10:40 -0800

I'm throwing the together now, folks. Should be done by print-time!

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flecky — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:21:35 -0800

This is good news.I want to order a copy as soon as it comes out.Knowing that it springs from the minds of you lot makes it even more special. I expect to feel dirty after reading it...

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luckycreature — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:53:36 -0800

That Cover is awesome. Thanks for including our names on the cover. Makes me feel all tingly. :> Cant wait to spread the word once its out.

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steevo — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:58:20 -0800

Alan takes all the credit for the cover layout, but I'm glad you like it, I'm excited about it too. Should be out very soon.

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steevo — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:51:00 -0800

Purchase your physical copy of Out of Place, Out of Time at Lulu.

Now through Jan. 6th you can get 25% off by using promo code ONEMORETHING

Thanks to all of you for everything.

Special thanks to Warren Ellis and Ariana Osborne for creating and fostering this environment and allowing me to meet all of the amazing authors who contributed to the book. And thanks to Si Spurrier for keeping it running after Warren got sick of all of us.

Buy our book!

To look forward to: We have a Lulu epub version and a Kindle version forthcoming if the physical one is a little to pricey.

Also, I'm still trying to put some flyers together if anyone is interested in fluttering those around.

PS. If you read the book and like it (or, I guess, even if you don't), go back and rate/review it.

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Vornaskotti — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:47:59 -0800

Really big thanks to Steevo for putting this together! We'd be super grateful if people took the time to make a bit of a noise by sharing the Lulu link or the Facebook link of the anthology in social media to get some visibility for the book! https://www.facebook.com/OutOfPlaceOutOfTime

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Beamish — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 16:44:29 -0800

Yes, Steve, a great many thank yous. So far we've gotten mentions by his Spurriness and a link by Kelly Sue DeConnick on the twitter and I've asked Space Daddy Warren as well as Matt Fraction.

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steevo — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:17:56 -0800

Great! I'm terrible with the Twitpimping, so your help is much appreciated. Thanks, Jason.

As for your thanks, they are not necessary, but gladly and gratefully accepted. However, I want to say that without everyone who worked on this project with me, it would have never happened. Your stories pouring in kept me excited, and your encouragement and vigor made me follow through. You guys rock.

Now it's back to the Twilight Zone marathon. I love New Year's time.

Here's to 2012, stay strange everybody.

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flecky — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:49:05 -0800

Well,being a man of my word,i've just ordered my copy and i look forward to reading it.I respect you guys for getting it together and hopefully this will be a success all round.

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Beamish — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:10:43 -0800

My copy has shipped. Excitement is growing.

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steevo — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:07:17 -0800

Nice, guys, let me know how they look to you when they arrive.

Kindle version should be available at some point this weekend.

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Morac — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:13:46 -0800

My copy has been ordered. I eagerly await its arrival.

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RobSpalding — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:32 -0800

I have ordered mine. Can't wait.

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Beamish — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:55:28 -0800

BOOOOOOM!

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steevo — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:34:34 -0800

Aweeesome...they are arriving....exciting.

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flecky — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 06:58:31 -0800

Oh aye.I just got back home to find my copy delivered.I like the format of it being short stories that can be read very fast as they bleed into each other.Not finished it yet so...

Genuinely happy about it and i want to thank all involved for making it possible.

Good stuff.

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Steve Toase — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:06:43 -0800

Looks fantastic. Really flattered you were able to use my story. Congratulations to everyone involved.

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steevo — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:03:14 -0800

Kindle copy is uploaded:

Your book is currently under review by the Kindle Operations team as we are trying to improve the Kindle customer experience. The Kindle Store requires approximately 12 hours for English and 48 hours for other languages to make your content available for purchase. This will not affect any titles you are currently selling in the store, but uploading updates to existing titles will take longer to process.

I'll let everyone know when you can actually find it on Amazon. It's going to be $2.99, I forget what the European equivalents are, but I threw in equivalent pricing for every currency they had available.

All glory and honor go to @WarpedSavant for saving my ass with some serious Kindlepub-fu yesterday.

Also, this one's got a sweet alternate cover done by Jeff Jamieson.

Bask:

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RobSpalding — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:51:02 -0800

Mine has shipped!
And I dig the Kindle cover

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fat face rick — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:25:50 -0800

Kindle edition is £2 on Amazon UK, just starting to read it now

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Warped Savant — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:34:44 -0800

Hey everyone, congratulations on this project. I hope that the sales do well enough to get your names out there into the world and that people enjoy reading your stories.

If anyone buys the Kindle edition, please let me know what you think of the formatting (both what you like and what you don't) as I've never formatted a book that went up for sale on Amazon before. (I've done a few EPubs for small publishers before but they stay in that format so I know that they don't get changed at all.)

It was an honour to be able to help with this.

Cheers.

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luckycreature — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:03:09 -0800

Mine still hasnt shipped and I ordered on first day :<. I'm gonna give Lulu till end of business tommorrow before I yell at them. I want to read all the goodness too.

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steevo — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:06:59 -0800

@luckycreature - Same thing has happened to mine, it's still in 'fulfilling' mode on the site...what the hell Lulu?

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steevo — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:21:19 -0800

@rick - Thanks for picking it up. Whataya think? Any suggestions or comments?

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Beamish — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:40:34 -0800

Whored on facebook, twitter, and Bendisboard.

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Warped Savant — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:42:25 -0800

Whored Kindle version on FB and another site. Sold to at least two people. Hopefully more to follow.

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Beamish — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:51:49 -0800

How are we doing on sales in general?

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Osmosis — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:35:48 -0800

Just chipping in to congratulate everyone involved and express my admiration. Such a great result of this messageboard bringing people together.

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steevo — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 04:19:54 -0800

@Beamish - We've sold 23 books so far according to my count this morning. 18 on Lulu and 5 on Kindle. Not too shabby. Hopefully it's just the beginning of the snowball.

@Osmosis and @WarpedSavant - Thanks for the support guys, we can use all the PR we can get.

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Steve Toase — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 04:31:36 -0800

Spammed both on my Facebook pages

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steevo — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:16:51 -0800

@luckycreature - Did your book get shipped?

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D.J. — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:14:38 -0800

Dang, now I'm disappointed I didn't submit anything. Oh well, I suppose.

Anyway, congrats to all yous published folk.

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steevo — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:29:49 -0800

@DJ Stawes - I'd love to do this again. I'll let you know if/when I'm taking submissions again.

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Beamish — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:30:05 -0800

I say we do it again.

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fat face rick — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:27:51 -0800

@steevo

Just got started on it this morning, all good so far

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:11:53 -0800

Once more unto the breach, I say!

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Warped Savant — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:04:03 -0800

If you guys decide to, I'll find a thing or three to contribute.

And help set up the layouts again.

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Beamish — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:51:41 -0800

I'll even let you fix my spelling again!

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RobSpalding — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:57:13 -0800

Finished it yesterday.
As expected not every single story was too my taste, but I can't say there was a bad one among them.
Enjoyed it, now determined to write more than one for the next collection!

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steevo — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:50:16 -0800

! Ah I love the initial excitement of a new project. I need to give the current one (and myself) a bit of time to breathe, but hopefully I can start planning a new book by March or so.

And, if you guys like the book, recommend it to others. Also, we'd be flattered if you'd review us on amazon.com or lulu.com.

Links to both Kindle and print versions at Facebook.

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flecky — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:48:03 -0800

Is this the first time a project like this has been undertaken; a compilation from the minds of people from Whitechapel? It's easy for me to say, as I was happy to buy a copy, yet I feel we should all give it as much support as possible so more can come out; a few quid is a small price to pay when you think about what it could mean for all the writers on this site.

I guess what I'm trying to say is we owe it to ourselves. It takes me back to all the old "pulp"sci-fi etc short story compilations that once was a thriving medium e.g NEW WORLDS in which authors like Moorcock used to serialize their works.

Yeah,things have changed, especially with the internet, but I love those old books and what they represented.

I look forward to the next one. And the one after that...

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:26:54 -0800

Whitechapel Quarterly: Short Fiction and Articles.

...hm.

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Beamish — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:20:51 -0800

Hmmmm indeed (creepy finger tapping)

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Warped Savant — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:08:48 -0800

Whitechapel Quarterly: Now with illustrations?

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DistractDelude — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:02:17 -0800

I will be ordering mine on pay day (Wednesday) and can't wait, this looks really nice and it's been a while since I delved into an anthology, so should be fun. Also, when it comes around to the next one in a few months I should have a few things to submit for consideration seeing as last week, inspired by Budgie's fast-fic approach, I've committed myself to producing a new short story between 750 - 1000 words each week.

Whitechapel Quarterly in any format sounds like a must have. I look forward to seeing how this develops.

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Vornaskotti — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:09:22 -0800

@Warped Savant:

Illustrations make any kind of e-publishing several magnitudes more challenging...

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Vornaskotti — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:34:32 -0800

Bloggery ahoy: Getting Published: "Out of Place, Out of Time: An Odd Collection of Short Stories"

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Morac — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 04:03:00 -0800

I wouldn't mind contributing some more, if we were to do this again. I have a few half-finished things that could use a good deadline...

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Warped Savant — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:35:39 -0800

Vornaskotti -- Yeah, I know. Depending on a few things, the illustrations can make it a lot harder. I'm currently working on a project where the guys grandfather did illustrations for a book and he wants it on his Kindle. If it's at the beginning or end of a chapter, then it's not an issue. It's when (as is the case with most of them) they're in the middle somewhere, then the spacing doesn't work unless you have the font and everything on your Kindle set to a certain size. Because it's just for him, it's okay. I'm doing it based on his viewing preference. But then I'm also having an issue with it as he wants some of the illustrations that only take up half a page to be at the bottom of the page.
But yeah, Sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's hard. Small illustrations that would be used as bit pieces at the beginning of the stories or something right at the end would be (I think) fairly easy. Having pictures throughout the stories would be awkward looking.

Plus, I think Amazon charges more depending on the size of the file... but I could be remembering something different.

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Warped Savant — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:39:19 -0800

Something that I haven't seen mentioned by anyone yet:

Does anyone have an e-book reader that isn't a Kindle? I have a few other formats of the book from when I was converting it. If anyone needs it in another format (E-Pub, PDF, RTF, etc) say something on here and I'll see if we (you, me and Steevo) can work something out.

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Vornaskotti — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:06:18 -0800

I've done some e-book conversions to both ePub and Mobipocket (ie. Kindle) and yeah, you can use pictures but you'll have to more or less make them a chapter of their own, so that they'll basically take one page. Pics between stories would work, but pics interspersed in stories looks clunky because of the text flow, and because of the oh-so-varied way most e-readers still render the code. We are really now in the same position where web developers were 10 years ago - a book can look completely different depending on the reader you are using (either a device or an app on iPad, for example...)

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Warped Savant — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:22:57 -0800

...a book can look completely different depending on the reader you are using (either a device or an app on iPad, for example...)

After I had sent Steve the basic layout to make sure it was how he wanted it he asked me to move a sentence up 5 or 6 lines (on the page with all the legal text, not anything in the stories) so that it was on the same page as everything else. I was confused 'cause it looked fine on mine, but whatever, I figured he used a larger font then I do (I have it set about as small as it can be). It wasn't until later that I realized that he was using the Kindle app on his computer to look at it.
I'll have to remember things like that for future formatting that I do.

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steevo — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:16:55 -0800

@Vornaskotti - Great blog article, thanks for pimping our baby up.

I love the ideas bouncing around here guys. I'm getting psyched about starting up a new project with everyone, and a WC quarterly sounds amazing, though I dunno if I could do one of these four times a year with my current schedule. Maybe we could get four people willing to edit/layout a book and they each do one a year? I dunno...just spitballin here.

Also, what @Warped Savant said, if you have an eReader that's not a Kindle and can't get the book, let us know and we'll work something out for ya.

FYI for all interested, we've sold a combined (Lulu and Kindle) 29 copies of the book so far. Not too shabby.

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Alan Tyson — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:11:38 -0800

I'd need to learn how to layout an e-book (which I'm more than willing to learn to do), and I'd be happy to edit one! Actually, a rotating editor's position might be kinda fun.

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Morac — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:09:54 -0800

Just a thought: how well does ebook formatting deal with comic pages? This could be a great opportunity to foster some Whitechapel artist/writer teamups.

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Warped Savant — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:44:11 -0800

Steve -- I'd be willing to do the lay-outs every time. However, I probably wouldn't have the time required to spell check / edit the stories. Well... that's not quite true... I guess it would depend on how quickly the turn around time would be and how many stories people would want to put in each release.
(Making the quotation marks, double hyphens, etc. consistent wouldn't be a problem, neither would the lay-out.)

Alan -- It's pretty easy to do. E-mail me if you want me to go over a few things with you.

Max -- Really, really poorly. In order to read the text you would probably be limited to 2, if not 1, panel per page. To give you a decent idea about viewing something like that: When I have to review a PDF on my Kindle I have to set it so that it's landscaped (which let's me see the top half of the page) and even then, it's a pretty big eye strain. If you were to take Freakangels and enter each panel as a separate page it wouldn't be too bad...
Damn... now I have to try that... Not tonight, mind you... but maybe tomorrow...

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Vornaskotti — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:38:06 -0800

E-book formatting deals really badly with anything apart from flowing text, if we talk about e-books as in ePub/Mobipocket style Kindle books. You can think of it as a website that's forcefully chopped into pages, and people can be reading it on anything from a smartphone to computer screen.

For releasing comics the warez-format cbz is the best, it's basically images of the pages. That's how we released the Iron Sky comic.

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Morac — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:48:12 -0800

I'm familiar with the cbz/cbr formats. It's a shame that the ebooks formats are so focused on being books. The idea of including interstitial art in a book naturally made me think of the combination of the two forms of ideas (ie. comics).

@Warped Savant: That's an interesting idea, breaking it down in to panels. It'd be an interesting challenge writing for that sort of format.

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Vornaskotti — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:03:42 -0800

Things are changing on the ebook front with Kindles, the new format of Amazon is more geared for material that has actual layouts. So far only Kindle Fire supports it, though.

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steevo — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:14:37 -0800

So here's an idea I was thinking about. We take the Whitechapel Quarterly idea and get four editors to do books that each have a solid format every year. For instance, Out of Place, Out of Time would come out at the beginning of the year (was actually thinking right before Xmas for next year's edition). Then the next book would come out in March or so and be stories on whatever that editor wanted to do. Then June or July. Then October or so. Each of the books would recur every year around the same time. This way, each editor gets stories based on whatever they want to do their book about and they have a whole year to get submissions/prep/layout/covers/etc...

What do you guys think? Is there interest from three other people for editing? Could we fill four books a year? Any ideas for topics for the other three?

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Alan Tyson — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:21:28 -0800

I think I'd like to try my hand at editing. How does everyone feel about a supershort series about people in travel or transition, from one person, place, or thing, to another? Call it Point A to Point B (or something better, because that title's a bit rubbish).

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Beamish — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:36:02 -0800

I'm in.

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steevo — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:57:00 -0800

I'm definitely up for that.

Taking suggestions for titles?

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luckycreature — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:32:41 -0800

I'm in for writing stuff for the collections. Just tell me when and where.
Got my copy finally today and love it so far. Have blogged it http://www.luckycreature.com/blog/ and tweeted it @luckycreature
Hopefully some sales come from it.

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RobSpalding — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:41:46 -0800

I'd be in for that.

A suggestion for the title Anchorbeard - From Here to Thereabout(s) - I'm undecided on the s

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Alan Tyson — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:22:42 -0800

I like that one. I also thought of, just now, "Getting There." It's a phrase that can mean a bit of whatever you want it to.

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Warped Savant — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:30:01 -0800

It's a shame that the ebooks formats are so focused on being books.

But that's what e-readers are for.
If you want to read a magazine, comic, etc, then get a tablet. I love having a Kindle because I wanted something to read books on. I have no interest in trying to read comics, newspapers, magazines, or websites on it.

Steve, et al -- What would we do if someone wanted to try having a serialized story? Would there be any room for that if it didn't fit the theme of the quarterly release?

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Beamish — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:03:10 -0800

Secondary serialized thought. What if we all collaborate on on longer story with each 1000 words acting as a chapter. The editor would write the first and the last chapter and the rest of us take it where we would. Thoughts?

I few years ago I was working on a story that me and a collaborators wrote in 200 word bursts. It got a little dirty.

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Morac — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:59:30 -0800

@Warped Savant: That's why I currently don't own either an e-reader or a tablet. I was speaking more in the context of this project, where we are targeting specific media (physical books and e-readers), rather than as a consumer of such media. I can see why e-reader developers made the decisions they did, but it would be nice if the formatting was a bit more robust to allow some more out-of-the-box ideas.

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Vornaskotti — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:35:50 -0800

Anchorbeard:

I'm in.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:40:53 -0800

@Warped Savant: Is the email in your account the one you'd prefer? I am eager to learn the ways of ebook formatting!

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Warped Savant — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:08:32 -0800

@Alan -- Yeah, that's the one.
(PS: I'm about to go to work so if you send it between now and the next 8 hours or so, I won't be able to get to it until I get home tonight.)

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Vornaskotti — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:12:24 -0800

BTW, if someone wants help with ebook editing, I studied the ePub-format last autumn and did some conversions of Finnish zine/anthology type of stuff.

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Osmosis — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:57:46 -0800

I'm interested in contributing content, but I'm sorry guys, I'm not able to contribute to editing.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 06:59:56 -0800

Alright, folks, so how about this:

Getting There: A Supershort Story Collection

The theme: Travel, transition, changes, all in media res. No origins, no destinations, just the journey, just mile markers.

The limit: 1,500 words (I'll give folks a bit more leeway with this one, but still well-below the usual "short story" limit.

I'll do one story and an introduction, and I've got an idea for the cover, though by it's nature I can't make it until I know who all will be joining us on this fine adventure.

Stories can be sent to me via universalconstants (all one word) at the google mail daht kham.

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Beamish — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:06:29 -0800

What is the deadline?

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Warped Savant — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:09:45 -0800

Alan -- I like it. I'll have it jingle around in my head for a day or three and see if I can come up with anything.
PS: I haven't received an e-mail from you about how to edit e-books. Did you want me to write one up for you still?
PPS: I'm up for getting any collections ready for sale on Amazon. Let me know if you want me to for this one.

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Vornaskotti — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:12:50 -0800

I'm in. Deadline, plz.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:16:51 -0800

Deadline: Let's say first drafts by the 20th of February, finals by the 1st of March. That way we can spend April formatting and editing, and hopefully have something out around Easter?

@Warped Savant: Sorry man, I got a bit down in the dumps this last week and completely forgot. I'll shoot you one right now.

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Morac — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:19:32 -0800

Should we maybe start a new thread for this?

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:20:30 -0800

We can do that, or if steevo's okay with it, maybe we can just change the title of this one to Whitechapel Quarterly, or something like that?

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flecky — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:52:33 -0800

Whitechapel Quarterly.I like the sound of that.I get the feeling from reading this thread that there is something good going down and it's cool to see people working together.It really is.

Hopefully one day i may get to contribute something.Shit,it would be a blast even just trying.

Keep it up!!

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DistractDelude — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:00:44 -0800

I'm in (if I make the standard).

Quick clarification: In medias res, with or without the flashbacks? I got confused when you put, 'No origins,' On reflection I believe you just meant no origin story/needless history snippets, but wanted to be clear in my own mind as I tend to confuse easily.

PS: I used to post under, Mhengla, but got rather sick of that name, just in case anyone wondered who the heck I am.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:06:57 -0800

Oh, no, I don't mean you have to use the technical meaning of in media res, I just mean it should be after the journey, transition, or whatever, has already started, and before it has ended.

EDIT: Wow, I'm not even sure what I was trying to type, right there. Sweet rollers, what am I doing editing ANYTHING?

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DistractDelude — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:29:43 -0800

OK, thanks for the clarification, I'll get started on something this weekend. I didn't see what you had to edit, so I think you're pretty safe on that side of things. A good editor fixes the bloopers before they get noticed, so mission accomplished! ;)

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Warped Savant — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:38:09 -0800

@Alan -- Instructions sent. Might be a little wordy... I didn't edit myself and I'm not good at writing directions. Let me know if there's anything that I wasn't clear about.

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RobSpalding — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:27:32 -0800

Sounds good.
I'll get me thinking cap on

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steevo — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:38:02 -0800

Hey guys, sorry about the lull. I've been out of Internet for 2 days. Alan, I love the theme. Thread title changed, obviously. I need to start writing.

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Beamish — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:33:20 -0800

Story 1 plotted and one tenth complete. Is there a max number of submissions?

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Alan Tyson — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:39:15 -0800

I'm gonna say, let's limit it to two. The more stories the better, obviously, but I'd like a nice bit of variety of authors, as well.

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luckycreature — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:13:40 -0800

I'm in again, if youll have me. Will have something out to you within a week or two.

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Beamish — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:43:03 -0800

300 words done, I'm liking where I'm going. I also blogged about Out of place, Out of Time.

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Alan Tyson — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:08:41 -0800

Glad to hear it, fellas! Really looking forward to what everyone puts together for this!

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Littlepurplegoth — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:24:44 -0800

Am I too late to offer for this? (need something to discipline me to working this week! Plus, well... )

I'm just starting to fill my head with the epub stuff... but I am a damn good sub-ed so happy, nay, keen to help out in that sense as well.

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Alan Tyson — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:44:52 -0800

Not too late at all! The more the merrier, I say.

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Beamish — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:54:38 -0800

Sorry to go back, but is there any word on an epub version of OUT OF PLACE?

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steevo — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:58:44 -0800

@Beamish - There will be an epub version of OOP available in April. In order to get all I could out of the Kindle version I had to make it the only e-version available for 3 months (I believe... will double check that tomorrow night when I finally get home). I wasn't sure what the market for a Lulu epub version was/if it was needed so I figured I'd let it go into the Kindle lending library for a couple of months (sorry if that messed ya up). If you'd prefer to get it sooner, I can just send you the original file via email. Get me at steevo83 at gmails and the dots coms.

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Beamish — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:49:53 -0800

@oldhat was asking.

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flecky — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:31:42 -0800

So,is this going to be the same deal as OOPOOT?I was happy to buy a carnal-copy of that and i will do the same for this.What about illustrations?Yeah,i imagine there's reasons why it's easier said than done, but i would love to see some of the amazing art from here wedged between or mixed with the stories.

Whitechapel Quarterly...the thought of a ongoing publication get's me all enthusiastic for a change.I could see people start to serialize longer works-creating characters who we would get to know so we could look forwards to their continuing exploits and adventures.

Next time i want my copy signed...with a variant cover limited to 100 drawn by Jim Lee!

Seriously,though,i do admire and respect all for putting such effort into something that we all passionately love.Good storytelling!

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texture — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:58:53 -0800

This is so freaking cool.

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steevo — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:05:25 -0800

@texture - Coming from Mr. Weaponizer that is high praise indeed. Gonna submit something for this one?

@Beamish - Tell @Oldhat to get in touch with me, I'm sure I could work something out for a prestigious Whitechapeler such as herself.

@flecky - GETTING THERE is @Anchorbeard's deal, but if we're going to get a true Whitechapel Quarterly going, I'd still love to have two more editors who would be more than welcome to try any formatting experiments they'd like.

@Anchorbeard - Been meaning to ask, do you have a place (blog or something) that you can post the full details for submissions?

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allana — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:13:51 -0800

This is a-o-kay by me. If you guys need copyediting help again, do let me know.
Also, illustration/cover-design stuff? Can I has contribute some photography? God knows my aimless wanderings have produced much prettier pictures than words.

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Beamish — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:16:47 -0800

So, I have a 300 worder that just seems like it will become too bulky if I add more. It has not been edited yet but I like it so far. Story the combobulation of story two.

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oldhat — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:11:13 -0800

He doesn't need to tell me, Steevo. I AM HERE ALREADY.

(expect an e-mail from me soon)

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texture — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:07:19 -0800

@ Steevo Will read the thread back and check sub dates etc, if I have time I will definitely submit. Best of luck with the project!

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:57:06 -0800

@Steevo: I was thinking, actually, that we should have a blog or, as oldhat suggested to me, a wordpress, just for Whitechapel Quarterly, for submission guidelines, news, maybe a few sample stories if the writers are comfortable with it, things like that. Anyone good with setting such things up? (I'm honestly very rubbish at setting up websites, even simple php boards).

@allana: I've got an idea for the cover, but let me see if we can get photographic submissions to work in the ebook format. I'm all for photos, particularly ones based on this theme.

Beamish: Cool! Can't wait to read it.

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luckycreature — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:16:52 -0800

Working on my story. Has a giant robot in it. That is all for now.

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Beamish — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:54:44 -0800

Giant robot you say, color me intrigued.

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RobSpalding — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:26:47 -0800

Started my first story. Thought it would reach 1000 words easy, but that might be stretching what shouldn't be stretched.

My second story, now that should push against the word count without too much bother.
(I aim to take up a larger pagecount this time)

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Beamish — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:09:24 -0800

Quick question, NO is acceptable, I have a friend who is a burgeoning writer, would you mind if I offered her a submission? She is not from WC.

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steevo — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:11:46 -0800

@texture - Saw you shared our link on FB, (thank you!) just wanted to let you know that the Kindle version is out: http://www.amazon.com/Out-Place-Time-Collection-ebook/dp/B006V2Y51G/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1327851929&sr=1-2

@Beamish - I almost missed your bloggery, sorry about that. It's been FB'ed.

My own first story is begun, but far from finished. We'll get there.

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steevo — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:13:20 -0800

@Anchorbeard - In keeping with Beamish's question, I'm sure the non-Whitechapelites that contributed to OOP would be interested in this as well, what do you think?

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:02:16 -0800

Sure! Bring 'em in!

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Littlepurplegoth — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:26:25 -0800

I've plotted a couple of things I think will be a reasonable fit for this.

One rather full of little yellow plastic ducks.

The other contains wine.

Now I have to turn them from outline and arc to... something :-)

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luckycreature — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:25:02 -0800

@anchorbeard
My story is on its way to you through the interwebs right now. Thanks again for organizing this next volume!

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texture — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:19:00 -0800

I have a question for the editors. Are you looking for new, never before published stuff? I have a story that's been online, but fits the theme quite well.

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Alan Tyson — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:07:28 -0800

@luckycreature: Got it, read it, and liked it! I've got a few (mostly grammatical) suggestions, I'll send it your way first thing tomorrow.

@texture: Mmmgonna as long as it's never been printed (and, presumably, sold for cashy money) then it should be okay!

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texture — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:55:23 -0800

@Anchorbeard, sweet I will polish it up and submit. It's been on Weaponizer, but like, 2 years ago

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Beamish — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:32:31 -0800

Back to OUT OF PLACE, OUT OF TIME for a moment. I have it on good authority that a copy of the book is sitting in the 'to read' pile of a writer who appeared on New York Times Best Seller list.

Returning to WHITECHAPEL QUARTERLY: GETTING THERE... @anchorbeard, I have e-mailed you a rough draft for your consideration.

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luckycreature — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:52:27 -0800

@anchorbeard. Thank you! Look forward to your notes and fixing it!

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steevo — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:48:07 -0800

@Beamish - Whu? That's awesome.

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Beamish — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:56:25 -0800

Kelly Sue DeConnick

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steevo — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:54:33 -0800

Nice. Gotta love Kelly Sue.

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texture — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:05:23 -0800

I have Submitted. Thanks guys, and best of luck! Also, awesome news about Kelly Sue DeConnick!

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:35:57 -0800

Everyone, I'm sorry I've been a bit slow and absent in all this. I've got a bit of a sickness, and with that sickness comes mind-altering drugs (okay, okay, just amox and robitussin), so I haven't been keeping up as much or as quick as I should be. Please bear with me, folks!

In the meantime, I've done this:

Introduction
by Alan Tyson

Travel, simply defined, is motion with purpose. It is directed, intentional change (though not always directed or intended by the one who is changed), and it is perhaps the greatest force for growth and understanding that humans have access to.

It should surprise no one, then, that the oldest, the greatest, and the most stories all share the theme of travel. The hero goes somewhere they've never been before, and they are affected by this new place, even as their actions change the land they have visited. Maybe our hero has intentionally set out to discover a new world, or perhaps they were dragged there by fate. Perhaps they come to make their destination their new home, or maybe they will return to where they began, though because they have already been changed by their journey, going “home” is nothing of the sort – when you change, the world changes with you. Even the place you started from has become just another destination.

Means of travel are considered important, perhaps even holy, by almost all cultures. Nearly every faith has a god, spirit, or patron saint of travel and travelers, from the Catholics' Saint Christopher (who is often illustrated as carrying young, weak, or endangered travelers on his shoulders) to the Vodoun loa Papa Legba (who, like all loa, may occasionally “ride” priests or other hosts, who are called a name which translates roughly into English as “horse”). Speaking of horses, while it's perhaps not a universal rule, I suspect most ranchers are far more connected to and, appreciative of, their horses than they are of their cattle, even if the animals are for milk rather than beef. In many cultures, crossroads are said to have spiritual or supernatural significance, and why not: they are probably the best physical manifestation of the concept of choice. Which occupation is more romantic, a salesman who works in a store, or a salesman who work out of their car?

The words “journey,” “travel,” “quest,” “road,” and “map” show up in the titles of all kinds of stories. Homer's The Odyssey, which originally just meant “the story of Odysseus” (or maybe “the journey of Odysseus"), has become a word which means “a long journey.” Equally as important and pervasive as Homer's epics are to Western literature is the “Journey to the West,” one of the cornerstones of Asian storytelling. This fascination isn't confined to the ancients, either: just ask anyone who identifies as a “Trekkie.”

We use travel metaphors all the time in our everyday language. Experiencing hard times is like “going through hell,” and if you're willing to endure such hardships for a greater cause, you might go “through hell and back” for it. If you are unable to find a new job, partner, or emotional state, you might say you are “stuck,” incapable of motion, either forward or backward. I've been asked “where are you at with this?” in reference to some project or assignment – have you completed your journey, or are you “stuck” ? Of course, one way to answer this question is with the noncommittal, yet strangely profound, answer: “I'm getting there.”

Getting There is a collection of super-short stories disparate in their characters, moods, and styles, yet tied together by the theme of travel. As previously stated, this is a pretty wide theme. There are a lot of journeys in this book.

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fat face rick — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:34:21 -0800

Nice

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RobSpalding — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:15:18 -0800

That's a really nice bit of writing.
And now I have to reconsider the title for story 2 - "Piss Break" - as it it now seems to lack that certain something.

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steevo — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:43:19 -0800

Well intro'd, old chap.

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DistractDelude — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:33:59 -0800

Very nice intro indeed. Just emerging briefly to announce that I have sent a first draft of my submission to your sacrificial editing desk. Having scrapped my previous two, (98% complete), attempts for being too literal in their interpretation of the, journey, concept, I decided it was time to bite the bullet. I look forward to discovering whether my scrawlings live up to the standards required for this new quarterly endeavour.

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RobSpalding — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:13:42 -0800

Sent in my first story - it was an absolute bugger. Never had that much trouble finding the story from an idea before. Hope it was worth it now.

Next up, second story - time to get to work.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:25:30 -0800

Rob, you sure you sent it to me? I haven't got anything.

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RobSpalding — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:50:35 -0800

I got no bounceback, so I assumed it went through.
I did put gmail and not googlemail in the address, might that have been it?

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:22:11 -0800

No, it's gmail... can you send it again?

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RobSpalding — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:25:53 -0800

Will do

[edit] Have done

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:43:56 -0800

Aha! For some reason it ended up in my spam folder. Bad gmail!

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Beamish — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:50:54 -0800

Did you get my first?

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:01:49 -0800

Beamish: I checked my spam folder to see if it wound up there, too, but it doesn't look like it did. Can you resend it?

Also, Rob, my gmail is apparently just made of derp today, and I couldn't find your email again to send you back some edits. Can you send me one more, just so I can get your address?

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Beamish — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:42:41 -0800

Hmmm....I sent it again to universal and academy (just in case).

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DistractDelude — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:56:17 -0800

@Anchorbeard - Did mine make it to you are do you need me to re-send? I sent it to the universal one if that helps, ta.

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Littlepurplegoth — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:08:00 -0800

Sorry - I'm not going to make deadline on this, it just isn't gelling ...

... having said that it will probably all work itself out in the next 24 hours... but a headsup anyway...

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steevo — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:58:02 -0800

@Anchorbeard - I'm setting a hard deadline for myself for this weekend, you'll have at least one, hopefully 2 rough drafts from me by Sunday.

I can also send an email blast to everyone who contributed to OOP, OOT about this if you'd like (should've done it sooner...dropped the ball on that, sorry!). Are we sticking to the original Feb. 20 deadline for roughs at this point or is that getting pushed back at all?

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:33:56 -0800

@steevo: Sounds good! I'd love to get the old crew in on this. Can't wait to see your piece!

Because I want to get a few more submissions (I'd like at least ten, counting my own) I think I'll push it back to, say, March 10th. That should give people a little more elbow room, hopefully.

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RobSpalding — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:09:30 -0800

Email received, don't need my address up here any more.

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Beamish — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:56:45 -0800

Hey @anchorbeard, did you get my link?

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roadscum — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:36:52 -0800

Hello there Mr Anchorbeard,

I am not sure if it will be of any use to you in this particular project but i have a picture you might want to look at, is it ok to post a copy up on my Flickr page under a CC license or would you prefer me to e-mail you a copy directly, in which case is it still the universalconstants at the evil empire dot communist? There is also the vanishingly small chance of a short written piece, though the way things are going you are more likely to receive that by flying pig than e-mail. My e-mail address can be found without too much effort should you need to contact me.

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steevo — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:27:11 -0800

1st story rough sent.

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luckycreature — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:53:58 -0800

@anchorbeard
I never got any edits from you. Just making sure the story isnt sitting between us and your waiting on me to fix the edits.

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Morac — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:05 -0800

Finally found a story worth hunting. Nets and long-ranged weaponry are packed and loaded, respectively. I'll let you know if I manage to catch it and prepare something tasty.

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DistractDelude — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:49:39 -0800

@Anchorbeard

Hey, when you get the chance please can you chuck up a list of who you've already received stories from so anyone who's still unsure can do re-subs as required before the 10th, thanks. Hope you're feeling better.

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Vornaskotti — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:53:09 -0800

Okay, dropped off the radar with this for a moment - came to see if I'd indeed missed the deadline, but noticed something about March 10th?

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Beamish — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:40:47 -0800

All things considered, Alan, please pull my first submission, Bullet, I feel it is in poor taste right now. My other story will be done soon.

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:02:13 -0800

@DistractDelude: I have received and edited the following:

"Shore Leave"
"The Deepest Man"
"The Robot Was"
"Visions"

I KNOW that more people have submitted stories, but my email has been a bit on the fritz, what with sticking mail in the spam folder or sometimes just not receiving mail at all.

So, here's what I'm going to do. I have just set up a new email account specifically for this project and its future iterations: Whitechapelquarterly at geemail dot com. After Getting There is completed and the next editor comes on, I'll send the password to them, and they can then use that email. This will, I hope, keep an online record of all past stories and conversations regarding same. An oral history, if you will, of Whitechapel Quarterly.

If you've submitted a story to my normal email but it's not up on that list, please resend it to the new WQ email. I'm really sorry for the inconvenience, guys. If all goes according to plan, I should have a pretty quiet weekend coming up, so I'll have time to edit anything sent my way.

Remember also that March 10 is just the deadline for FIRST DRAFTS. If you put a story together on the 9th (or hell, early on the 10th before I check my mail :p ), it'll still get in. Hell, I haven't even been able to start my own story, so if you have a title and a blinking cursor, you're already way ahead of the editor!

@Beamish: By all means, Jason. Again, my condolences. Looking forward to reading your new piece!

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DistractDelude — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:25:28 -0800

Thanks for the update. I like the idea of there being a record of these as well, the idea of a documented history of publication appeals to the historian/collector in me!

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RobSpalding — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:49:44 -0800

@Anchorbeard I think I do want to change my title, having seen it in the list.
The Falling Waltz is just better.

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 11:17:27 -0800

Sure thing, Rob!

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steevo — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:53:24 -0800

Striking Out resent to Whitechapelquarterly email.

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Corey Waits — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:30:00 -0800

Had a massive brainfart and kept thinking that "Whitechapel" was the same as "Weaponizer" and then ignoring the chatter in this thread 'cause I'd already submitted... So yeah, I'm an idiot, and I might get something submitted ASAP - I've already been working on a highly-fictionalised travel journal of my recent (and ongoing) trip, so I could probably turn one of the chapters into a submission with judicious use of the scalpel.

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RobSpalding — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:03:44 -0800

"The Dappin Men" has been sent on.

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Beamish — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:22:27 -0800

SHIT!

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Beamish — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:41:18 -0800

"Night Drive" has been e-mailed.

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steevo — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:55:01 -0700

@anchorbeard - How's the editing going for this? Lemme know if you need a hand with anything.

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texture — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:06:23 -0700

I'm happy to do proofreading too, if you need a hand.

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Warped Savant — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:11:58 -0700

So, I just had a thought this morning... IF we're going to be doing this quarterly, shouldn't the next installment be started fairly soon?

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Steve Toase — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:08:03 -0700

@anchorbeard

Feel free to tell me to piss off as I'm stamping all over the deadline. I've got an 800 word story that was submitted somewhere but not picked up. It's just come back to me and I think it would fit the theme.

Is it too late to send it? Like I say don't worry if it is and feel free to tell me to take a hike. Good luck with the project!

Steve T

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Alan Tyson — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:55:58 -0700

@Steevo and texture: Sorry guys, it's just been taking me a bit between my job and moving into a new place. It's still on track, it's just... slow :(

@Warped Savant: I had thought of that. If someone wants to start taking submissions for the next edition now, I wouldn't be offended!

@Steve Toase: If it's ready to send off, sure! After this one, though, I think I'm going to put a halt on submissions, as it's already taking me way too long to edit the one's I've got. That's mostly my fault, but still.

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Steve Toase — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:52:09 -0700

@Anchorbeard. Cheers for the flexibility. Sent to the Whitechapelquarterly email.

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Beamish — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:03:19 -0700

I'll do the edit on mine if you want to approve or deny it.

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steevo — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:57:06 -0700

@Anchorbeard - Believe me...I know the feeling. No rush, just wanted to check in with ya.

@Warped - Yeah, that's why I think we need an editor for each edition, they come quickly and there is always some sort of delay. I am still planning on doing OOP 2, but I'll start taking subs for that around the end of August to early September I think.

If anyone wants to edit one of these bad boys, come up with a theme and rules and let us know.

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Beamish — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:04:25 -0700

I could probably do first quarter 13 if we are still at it.

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DistractDelude — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 04:49:27 -0700

Just pulling this back to the top of the pile to see if anyone is willing to put themselves/a theme forward for the next edition.

Unfortunately I do not have the experience/skill to pull off such a feat myself, but since there's so much enthusiasm for the project I thought it best to pull this thread back up into general usage again as it would be a shame to let it slide considering the vast talent pool available.

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RobSpalding — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:08:11 -0700

My turn to keep the thread alive.

Anyone had an idea for the next Quarterly? Nothing has come to my mind yet and I'm not sure I'm ready to be in charge just now, maybe in a few months time if something else I'm working on comes off I will be.

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Steve Toase — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:17:01 -0700

I'm not in a position to lead on something but an idea did occur to me for a theme. One of the real entertaining sights on Whitechapel is the creative abuse develops in the spam threads. How about a Quarterly based on this; on the spambots, inspired by their outpourings, reactions to their posts, explorations of the shadow psychosis of the spambots themselves.

In the spam I've received by email my two favourites have been
Cockzilla is the Word, and
Crocodile Fanny.
Both sound like they've come out of the consensus reality of this place.

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Vornaskotti — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:08:02 -0700

Steve:

Oh hell, I'm in if that's going to happen!

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Steve Toase — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:18:54 -0700

Like I said I can't edit or put the volume together, I have two different jobs each day plus writing plus editing for one magazine, but if someone else wants to do something with the idea I think it sums up the caustic, talented river of piss-taking that runs through the catacombs of this here forum.

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flecky — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:12:03 -0700

@ Steve: I would definitely want to read that. The more toxic, the better!

Excuse me, as my mind is just liquid-goo these days, but is the first quarterly still in the works?

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steevo — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:46:45 -0700

@flecky - Should be. Anchorbeard?

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Corey Waits — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:58:13 -0700

a) Hoping that Anchorbeard (which I first typed as Anchorbear, which is also good) got my story. I haven't had an email back, but I'm sure he's just busy.
b) Would also love to be involved in an volume of responses to spam, would let me experiment some more with cut-ups and similar, which is always fun. A thought though - perhaps the theme could be more generally related to 'the internet' with more traditional stories as well as the creative responses to spam and bots. I just think the cryptic nonsense could get tiring for the reader if that's all there is.
c) I would love to offer to edit the volume, but I too am working 2 jobs currently, doing my own writing, etc and whilst I might be settled in the UK currently, come August I'm back to jetsetting.

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Steve Toase — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 06:38:24 -0700

@Corey It could be widened to the internet, but I think there are enough elements in spam messages to generate short stories, flash fiction etc

eg Cockzilla, Japanese monster movie barnyard mutation sci-fi

Titiana I Give My Kiss To You. Faery romantic intrigue

Crocodile Fanny Underground Lizard Porn Clubs (That one sounds a bit familiar...)

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RobSpalding — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:17:01 -0700

I recently had to proof read a short story that was nothing but fake spam emails.
It gave me a headache - misspellings, more spaces between some words than others, occasional capitalisation.
And in the end I found the tale a nothing because it merely played with the idea instead of using it narratively.

I saw how it could have been done, so there's definite scope there. Just be prepared, stories written like true spam are painful on the eyes, an entire book full might be too much to cope with.
Having said that, if someone decides they want to do it, I'm sure I will submit.

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Alan Tyson — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:47:40 -0700

Hey folks...

If you'd like to imagine me holding my hat and awkwardly turning it over and over while I say this, you won't be far off the mark. The short version is, between moving into a new apartment, work at my job getting significantly more intense than I thought it would, and a few personal issues, I have not been able to put the work into putting together this anthology that it, and its fantastic writers, deserve. I haven't even been able to write my own story for the anthology. I was hoping that, now that I'm more or less moved into my new place, I'd have more time to work on Getting There, but I'm not sure that's actually going to be the case.

However, I don't want this thing to fade away. Frankly, the stories are just too damn good, and you guys deserve for them to see the light of day.

With that said, I would like to step down as editor for this go-around, and hand the reigns over to someone who can really get this thing done. I will transfer all the email information to whoever would like the job, including the compilation as it currently exists. Things just don't seem like they're going to break enough to give me the time to work on this, but that's no reason the anthology has to die.

I am really, genuinely sorry, everyone. I wish I could have gotten this thing together and sent it out by now. Things got strange and tight and wrong on my end of things almost immediately after Getting There really got rolling, but I know that's not the best excuse. I'm sorry to keep everyone waiting and wondering on this.

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Warped Savant — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:18:23 -0700

Okay, I have a question that might seem kind of goofy...
What is the editor supposed to do? Simply read the stories and check for spelling / grammar mistakes? Talk back and forth with the writers to make the stories better? Some other things that I can't think of?

Because, depending on what's required, I'd step up and give it a shot.
(But it depends on what people are expecting.)

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flecky — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:30:01 -0700

@Anchorbeard: They are all very legitimate reasons and I'm sure everyone understands. Thanks for letting us know.

After being happy to purchase a copy of Out of Place, Out of Time, I'm now look forward to reading more from the people here. But I can only imagine all the work it takes be an editor/publisher etc, so I don't mind waiting.

I've got a feeling this won't fade away...

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flecky — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:32:24 -0700

@ Warped Savant: Good man.

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steevo — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:59:07 -0700

@Warped - Spelling/Grammar mistakes are a semi large part of taking the reigns. What I pretty much told people when I got their stories for OOP,OOT was that when they submitted to me, I might make minor grammatical/typo changes, but they were largly responsible for their own stories. There were a few people who I got back to if I was thinking about changing something that affected their plot, but otherwise I left almost everything as it came to me, content-wise. How you want to approach that really depends on you, but I believe the stories sent in so far were expected to be rough drafts.

The rest of the process is combining everything into book form, finding a cover, doing the layout, doing the marketing, making sure the authors know what's going on, and pretty much anything else you can think of that could conceivably make the book a better realized product... now that I type it out like that it seems like quite a bit. Don't let that discourage you, when I did it it wasn't so bad, and there are lots of helpful, friendly people around here (as you know--because you are one of them).

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allana — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:16:19 -0700

Copyediting the first book was fun. I will copyedit the new one, absolutely. Send it to me!

Also, when you "take the reins," it's an equine reference, not a regal thing. REINS, GUISE, REINS.

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allana — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:18:13 -0700

Also, AnchorMcBeardo, your stories in the last one were super-fantastic, and you should sit your stupid ass down and write some more. Seriously. Go do it now, and no more fussin' over the rest of it.

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Alan Tyson — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:35:55 -0700

Oh, god damn it all, did I seriously do that? Jesus, Alan, what are you doing trying to edit a whole anthology, and you can't even edit your own posts!

(thank you so much, Allana. You are the superheated, 120 km/h wind beneath my wings.)

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steevo — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:43:24 -0700

@allana - Ugh, I did it too...and I knew that...stupid typo, was writing from work.

@Anchorbeard - Before you give up, ponder the words of Tycho Brahe (the illustrated alter-ego, not the astronomer):

...I had let it float away on one of those little lantern boats in a way that brought me closure, if no one else. Insufficient.

Fucking insufficient.

You have to get back on the horse. Somehow, and I don’t know how this kind of thing starts, we have started to lionize horseback-not-getting-on: these casual, a priori assertions of inevitable failure, which is nothing more than a gauze draped over your own pulsing terror. Every creative act is open war against The Way It Is. What you are saying when you make something is that the universe is not sufficient, and what it really needs is more you. And it does, actually; it does. Go look outside. You can’t tell me that we are done making the world.

Bonus for another reference of an equine bent.

ETA: Allana did a helluva job with the editing on Out of Place.

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Warped Savant — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:02:52 -0700

Okay, so now I'm going to be dumb... I'm willing to do it.

BUT! I need someone to help with finding the cover and getting the word out there.
I'm terrible at advertising / setting up websites (either a site on it's own or a facebook type thing). When it really comes down to it, I'm not on the 'net a whole lot and, as people have probably noticed, I don't participate in a whole lot of discussions. (I've been trying to more often, but it's a struggle.)

Now that I think about it though... we should set up a "Whitechapel Quarterly" page instead of a separate page for each edition... Maybe we can eventually convert what was set up for OOP, OOT. (Which I like pronouncing as it looks as opposed to what it stands for.)

Alan, you have my e-mail, right? Send everything over and I'll give it a go.
PS: Whitechapel Quarterly is intended to only be distributed via Amazon, right?

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DistractDelude — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:31:42 -0700

@Anchorbeard - I know that making the decision and writing that post won't have been easy for you, so thanks for the honesty and sorry to hear that everything's so hectic at the moment. I hope things get better for you soon and I second Allana in hoping you get a chance to add a story once everything is a bit more settled.

@Warped Savant - All the best with taking this edition over. I'm sure that you'll find that many people far more knowledgeable of these things than me will be able to help smooth out any bumps along the way. As for me, well I'll cheer from the sidelines and wish you the best since I have no practical skills to bring to bear in this area. I do rather like the idea of a W.Q. page though as it reminded me of a post a while back where an archive page was mooted. It would be rather nice to have an archive/central database for these releases.

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steevo — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:06:22 -0700

I set up a page on Facebook that is going to take some work, but check it out and let me know who wants to be an admin to help make this page really pop. www.facebook.com/whitechapelquarterly - I'll warn you, it is a barren landscape as of now.

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roadscum — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:21:04 -0700

I'm afraid i can be of no practical use here other than to wish you all the very best of luck with this. I really hope you manage to get it all together, it is something i do definitely wish to see.

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texture — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:36:55 -0700

I'm happy to second-round proof if help is still required - texturemusick@gmail.com

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steevo — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:41:42 -0700

1st thing's 1st. We need a better image for the FB page. The one I threw up there is just a placeholder obviously.

We also need (hopefully) a couple of people who are willing to post updates on the site from time to time. The biggest part of growing the book is going to be a continuous flow of information. We can't let that site get stagnant. Once the book is about ready to be released we're gonna have to hit the ground running with posting on there and getting the word out.

If anyone has any ideas for changes to the site, let me know. Also, if anyone wants to step up and help me administrate it, that would be a huge help too. Let me know, folks.

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Warped Savant — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:57:29 -0700

steevo -- I will help admin the site.

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steevo — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:44:42 -0700

@ Warped - Sweet, you haven't liked it yet have ya? Once I see you in there I'll add you as an admin.

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Warped Savant — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:32:45 -0700

I knew I was forgetting to do something...

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steevo — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:25:07 -0700

Haha, I dub thee, Admin Neil.

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Warped Savant — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:01:39 -0700

@Everyone that has some stories for "Getting There" --I know that Anchorbeard is rather busy and that he had some problems and may not have received all of the submissions... can you all resend them to me? Be sure to include your name on here, real name, and what you want to have written about you at the back. (And anything else you may want to include that I haven't thought of.) I'll also send you an e-mail saying I got, I should be able to check my e-mail every night but Thursday so you should get a confirmation within 24 hours. If not, send another e-mail asking.
Address = warped_savant [at] yahoo [period] com

I tend to get a lot of spam so I'll double check that folder before deleting anything... hopefully I catch them all.

Anchorbeard -- When you get a chance, can you send me what you have just in case people don't check here often?

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Alan Tyson — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:09:50 -0700

@Warped Savant: Email headed your way now, sir, laden, positively BURSTING with fiction!

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Warped Savant — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:42:05 -0700

Question for all of the contributors:
What do we want to charge for this little collection? (Do we want to charge for it?)

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DistractDelude — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:38:01 -0700

I've re-sent my story to you with an altered (better) title + my details.

As for pricing - how many stories are set to be included in this volume and what format(s) will it be available in? My only other though is that, Steevo may have some suggestions regarding this seeing as he did OOP, OOT.

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Warped Savant — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:20:37 -0700

There's currently 9 stories, ranging from 4-6 pages on a Kindle (smallest font setting, sans serif, smallest font setting, most words per line).
Compared to OOP, OOT which had 30-something stories but I think they were 2-3 pages each. It's on Amazon for $2.99

My understanding was that we were just putting this up on Amazon to be sold for the Kindle.

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steevo — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:31:08 -0700

To be honest, I'd love to have a physical copy of the book, but that would require a larger effort, and I'm not sure that you really want to spend that amount of time getting it out. Do you think we should take stock of what types of formats people want to see on this? I'd be willing to help out on a physical copy if you decide to do one, Neil.

In terms of pricing, I believe I was pretty locked into selling them for $2.99, though I may be misremembering... Or the way the pricing works on these could be different at this point. Either way, Amazon lets self-published books into the lending library for free (even though the publisher [that being me in the case of OOP, OOT and Neil in this case] does get a cut for any books that are borrowed). They also had a deal where you could offer the book for free for a week, whenever you wanted, and the publisher would also get a cut for that.

Again, I'm not sure if they still operate this way.

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Corey Waits — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:00:46 -0700

Email sent. I like the idea of a physical copy, but I've got no idea how much more effort that would require for what would surely be a very small number of books... That said, I'll be very surprised if I don't end up with an e-reader of some description by the end of this year. It's either that or keep buying bookshelves.

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luckycreature — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:12:15 -0700

@warpedsavant

Do you have my story "The Robot Was" and bio from anchorbeard or do I need to send it again to you?

I'd prefer a physical copy but if digital is the only way to go, that's fine too.

Let me know if I need to send the story again.

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Warped Savant — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:14:25 -0700

Steevo -- I have no idea what has to go in to making a physical copy. If you'd be willing to help with that, that would be awesome. E-mail me and we can talk about what's involved.

Corey -- Got it, thanks.

Lucky Creature -- I have the story, not the bio. E-mail me so that I can respond with any suggestions / edits.

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Steve Toase — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:02:26 -0700

@Warped Savant

Just forwarded mine to you, along with a bio.

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texture — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:42:19 -0700

In terms of a physical copy, if it is layouts you are worried about doing, I can offer some help. If it's all text, no illustrations,I could finish layouts for you very quickly.

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Warped Savant — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:41:01 -0700

Texture -- It's not that, although I do appreciate the offer, it's that I think there's a lot of red-tape type stuff to go through. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember getting that impression from Steevo.

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RobSpalding — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 04:01:41 -0700

Finally sent my stories in, but forgot a bio, will try to work something up later.

But wanted to say - I didn't mind paying for a hard copy of OOT, OOP because it was through Lulu and there's no money in this. However, I would expect a contributor's copy (i.e. free) if we are going ebook only on this.

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texture — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:00:42 -0700

No worries. Anything Ican help with, do just drop me a line.

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Warped Savant — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:08:14 -0700

Rob -- I agree with you about the free copy for contributors.
Ultimately, it's up to you good folks for what the price is and what formats it's available in. I know that Amazon has a clause that if they sell it for you, you can't sell it on any other site for 3(?) months in any electronic format (POD is fine though).

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allana — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:25:11 -0700

I like the POD version of OOPOOT. And I don't mind paying for it. My name! Is on the cover! Of a book! A real book! It's pretty sweet.

But if this takes off as an actual quarterly, you might want to get a solid design idea down that you can carry on to future issues. Don't just wing a print version.

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Beamish — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:17:47 -0700

Sorry, I haven't been around. Has my tale been transmitted?

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Warped Savant — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:39:38 -0700

Jason -- Yeah, I have it.

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Beamish — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:06:51 -0700

Cool, thanks.

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Warped Savant — Tue, 22 May 2012 22:07:48 -0700

Hey everyone, sorry it's been so long but life keeps getting in the way.
I've read through the stories a few times and am hoping to get e-mails out to everyone in the next week or two. I'm sure I'll say it in the e-mails, but just in case I don't: If you don't agree with any of the suggestions I'm making, please, for the love of God, say something! Don't just let me change your words because you're too timid.

Also, does anyone have contact information for "Bram E. Gieben"? (I don't even know who that is.) I have a few notes for him but I don't have his e-mail.

PS: If I don't have any suggestions for your story I'll send you an e-mail letting you know that too. Please feel free to harass me about getting this done.

Thanks,
Neil

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Steve Toase — Wed, 23 May 2012 04:37:13 -0700

Bram is Texture on here

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texture — Thu, 24 May 2012 12:49:59 -0700

Got your notes Alan, I'll have a response for you next week, hope that's cool.

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Warped Savant — Fri, 25 May 2012 07:06:42 -0700

Yeah, Bram, that'll be fine. I haven't been able to get e-mails off to everyone else yet, so it's all good.

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steevo — Sat, 23 Jun 2012 05:53:00 -0700

Heya, just thought I'd pop by here and see how everything is going with this. Need a hand with anything, Neil?

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Warped Savant — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:50:40 -0700

Thanks, Steve. I have one or two left to go through (I honestly have no idea why I haven't done them yet... life gets away from me a little bit, but I really have had the time... I feel bad about that) and there's a couple of people that I'm waiting to hear back from. Once I send off the last couple I'll e-mail everyone that I'm waiting on.
Work has been silly stupid lately so coming home and editing / correcting people's mistakes really isn't something that I want to be doing right now. I've been in a shit mood and it would really show in how critical I would be and how analytical I would be, thereby losing the personalities of the stories.

Depending on friends, I may be free this weekend to finish them off.

Sorry, everyone, that this is taking so long.

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steevo — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:23:19 -0700

No worries, I know I certainly took my time with OOP, OOT. It'll be done when it's done, I have no doubt.

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sasa1101 — Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:13:26 -0700

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roadscum — Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:23:00 -0700

Oh for fucksakes, KILL IT WITH FIRE!

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steevo — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:06:31 -0700

Commissioning for OOP, OOT 2 in shortish order. Keep an eye out, here and in your mailboxes, over the next week or two for my write up.

That is all.

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steevo — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:17:03 -0700

OUT OF PLACE, OUT OF TIME 2

Moved to it's own thread!

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Morac — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:30:56 -0700

Hmm. Hmmmmm......

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steevo — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:47:49 -0700

Gonna move OOP, OOT to it's own thread since Getting There is still open.

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Warped Savant — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:06:05 -0700

Okay, once again, sorry about how long this is taking. I need opinions from everyone that has made a contribution to "Getting There".
How do you guys want it published? As a physical book? Just on Amazon? (If on Amazon, how much should it be?)

I haven't heard back from everyone about the edits, I think I'm going to e-mail all of them again at one time so that as I get answers back I'll finalize the edits and save them in a separate folder. (I think I only heard back from one of you, actually...)

Also, any ideas for a cover?

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 06:41:46 -0700

Published: I think it'd work nicely as a book, personally, but I understand that that's a whole 'nother series of hoops to jump through first.

Cover: This is what I'd have as a rough sketch, modified to fit certain *ahem* regime changes in the interim :)

I was trying to give it this look like an old '60's era map I saw of a pass through the Rocky Mountains when I was a little kid. Obviously, I'll spruce it up and add in all the other names, but how does this work as a basic concept?

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steevo — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:57:49 -0700

Hey Alan, I'm not seeing the cover pic. Anyone else having the same issue?

In terms of how it's published, I can access it either way, but having a physical copy available would be cool. Also, the problem with doing it through Amazon is that you are not allowed to release it in other e-formats for some pre-determined amount of time (which I forget right now). Let me know if you want some assistance laying out a physical version.

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flecky — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:35:36 -0700

@Alan - Like steevo, I'm not seeing the cover pic.

I guess I'm going to have to take the interstellar jump and get into e-books etc. I'd buy it as a physical entity, though.

Thanks for the update, Warped Savant, and good luck.

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:50:10 -0700

I tried a different upload link - is it better now?

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flecky — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:23:14 -0700

@Alan - Buzzkill McFlecky, I am today.

No. But I don't trust my eyes - they are very sore!

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:01:18 -0700

Bugger. Lemme try a different upload.

Any luck?

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Corey Waits — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:18:33 -0700

I can see it. Looks good, I like the minimalist design.

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flecky — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:56:49 -0700

That's an affirmative, Alan. Lookin' good!

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steevo — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:35:40 -0700

Damn, that's a nice cover.

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taphead — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:03:36 -0700

Ooof, LOVELY!

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Alan Tyson — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:28:58 -0700

Phew! I dunno what went wrong the first time around, but I'm just glad it's up now.

Glad you guys like it! I'll finish adding in the names and give it a few tweaks, see if I can tighten it up a bit. Suggestions for doing so would be more than welcome!

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Warped Savant — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:12:54 -0700

Alan -- I love the cover idea! Something about the G and T in 'getting there' just doesn't quite look right to me... maybe if they were capitals instead? I don't know... but yeah, great concept.

Steve -- If we do it as a physical book I'll definitely need your help. It wouldn't be very big, there's only 9 (I have to check that) stories and they range from 2 - 5 pages... If I remember right, listing it on Amazon restricts you from selling it on other pages / in other formats for 3 months. (But I could be wrong on that.)

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Steve Toase — Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:43:47 -0700

Love the cover. The colour scheme has the feel of the penguin classics

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Beamish — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 05:13:35 -0700

Hey, that's my name. Sorry, it looks like I missed a lot. Where are we at?

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Warped Savant — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:31:09 -0700

Currently we are looking at the cover design by Alan Tyson, I'm going through the stories again and wondering where all of my edits went, and I'll be sending them all out again as I didn't get them all back from people and can't seem to find the ones that I did get back.

And I'm trying to figure out how people want this published. There's 9 stories, they range from 2 to 5 pages long.

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Beamish — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 11:42:49 -0700

Oh, I like Alan's cover, if you sent me something for edits it disappeared into the ether for I do not recall seeing it. As for publication I am feeling comic size may suit the 30 some pages.

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luckycreature — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:42:46 -0700

Hey @warped savant. I never got any edits from you for my story The Robot Was. So if you sent them please send it again. I prefer physically book but your the editor so do either way is fine by me.

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Warped Savant — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:37 -0700

Shawn -- I`m going through them all again just to see if there's other things that I missed or suggestions that I didn't catch the first time around. I'll be sure to post on here when they get sent out. (I plan on sending them all at one time so that it's easier to track and to make sure that I actually sent them all.)

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RobSpalding — Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:07:52 -0700

Maybe you should list the stories you have got here, that way we can see if any of ours are missing and get them back to you.

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Warped Savant — Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:29:08 -0700

I have:
Shore Leave - Bram E Gieben
Eschatology's Muse - Ben Durbin
Flying While Bearded - Corey J White
Night Drive - Jason Beamish
Schneestern - Steve Toase
Striking Out by ummm.... someone.... Also, to that someone: Is that the title you want to use? (You indicated it was a working title)
The Dappin Men - Rob Spalding
The Falling Waltz - Rob Spalding
The Robot Was - Shawn Scott Smith

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texture — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:29:39 -0700

I'm sure I owed you some revisions. I have the notes you gave me, going to dig them out. Thanks again for including my story.

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steevo — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:56:15 -0700

Striking Out was me (Steven Ormosi), and yeah that title will work fine. Sorry I didn't put my name on it, I'm a silly bastard.

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Warped Savant — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 05:44:23 -0700

Brian -- Don't worry about the ones I sent however many months ago. I'll probably have an updated one with other revisions to you soon-ish.

Steve -- That's okay. I just didn't take the time to go through the e-mails to see who it was by.

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DistractDelude — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:25:14 -0700

Hi! I've not been around much due to getting, first, a part-time and then a - completely different - full-time job. Glad to see this is still going ahead, and I love that cover.

Let me know if you need me to re-edit any parts of mine, ta.

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luckycreature — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:51:52 -0800

This still happeneing?

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Warped Savant — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:09:56 -0800

I don't know. I've had too much stuff going on that I'm not willing to get into, I've been unable to edit the stories in any way in which I would consider complete.
I also can't figure out a decent way of putting out a physical copy. It's too small for a book, magazine doesn't seem right to me.

I need help with this. If anyone wants to step up, I'll send you the originals from the authors along with the edits I've come up with so far. Once the edits are complete, I can promise you that I can get an e-book version within a couple of hours of me being home and receiving the final edits.

I'm sorry.

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luckycreature — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 04:48:23 -0800

Magcloud may be an option if someone wants to step up to plate to put this together. I'm pretty familar with magcloud (for a print option) so could help on that end, but I'm no editor, and have no skills in that direction.

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steevo — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 05:49:45 -0700

I know it's been a while since this was updated, but hey, let's ressurect, no need for all of those lovely stories to go to waste. I was thinking, since we've got two basically stalled projects (OOP, OOT 2 and Getting There) which are both undersized, why don't we combine them. This would get all of the stories out there in a longer format and condense editing responsibilities at the same time. I could take care of putting these out, though it probably wouldn't be with any sort of quickness.

@Warped: Can you email me what you have? Including any cover images you may have, etc... I'll try to get on top of putting this stuff out.