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  1.  (9904.1)
    I'm just excited to see ol' Supes rocking the mullet again.

    I assume that's what's going to happen, right?
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      CommentAuthorBeamish
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2011
     (9904.2)
    I just read bleedingcools article stating that Barbara Gordon will be Batgirl again. That is not a story that I would mess with. The character was made strong through its history. I am guessing there will be equal amounts of disapointment to the excitement of new stories.
    • CommentAuthorgaveedra
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2011
     (9904.3)
    I haven't bought a DC comic for years. I am going to pick them up digitally and see if I want to continue. Seems like a good think on a personal level, that is DC will gain sales for at least a month from one reader.That is really all I can comment on as I have not been following the industry and mechanics of comic sales and distribution.
  4.  (9904.4)
    I posted these on the other Flashpoint thread, but thought you might enjoy this here too. Any other ideas that DC could use to modernize their characters?

    So I decided to tweet some ideas for DC to use yesterday in their relaunch and thought I would share them here.

    Superboy title - hipster with huge mustache falls in love while dealing with psychic powers. #modern

    Firestorm. An undercover chinese agent in America meets an ancient mathematical problem and can rearrange time in 5 min chunks

    Super-Lantern. Mash-up title involving a hybrid of John Stewart and Kal-el fighting against Satanic magic-eating aliens.

    Flash can be a self-aware virus that causes the carrier to have super speed...until they die. #modern

    Outsiders can be a series of fringe political activists that gain powers and fight against the system...and each other. #modern

    Green Lantern can now be a woman named JaM, a slam poet with a mind that smashes out the craziest light constructs

    Teen Titans can be in a correctional program and get hit by lightning. #modern

    Robin can now be a robot ninja assassin with a heart made out of green tights and trapeze wire.

    Let's make Deadman Aliveman and dress him in purple and gold and make him have dancing powers.

    Let's relaunch Batman with a ponytail and a hole in his mask for it. That will be modern!

    Jet Ski Aquaman is the next gen Auquaman. Starring Jellly the jellyfish, and Fin, the tuna in a can!
  5.  (9904.5)
    Is it just me, or can DC kind of say goodbye to their back catalogue for some time? One thing I've never understood is why the Big Two aren't presenting their digital material in such a way that gives potential readers a sufficient structure to encourage picking up the current books (print or otherwise).

    If you go to Marvel's digital library, it's easily as impenetrable as LCS, if not more so, because there's nobody to talk to. What they should be doing is giving people the collected Jonathan Hickman run on Fantastic Four for 20 bucks, just in time for them to go out and pick up the new Future Foundation book, and replicating that for all their major series. They should be bundling all those oft-referenced "classic" stories together for cheap(-er than trades), make them an impulse purchase so that it's not too much of a financial burden if you're just reading it for continuity's sake (a shitty concept to have to facilitate, but I think it'd work).

    I don't read any DC mainstream books at the moment, but could potentially be interested in a few digital books with the reboot, but only if they actually offer up a proper "download and do as you will" model, which I can't see happening for some time.
    • CommentAuthorgzapata
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2011
     (9904.6)
    My biggest thing for digital is allowing for many platforms and one standard file type. I really just don't like flash and would prefer to continue reading with CDisplay or something similar
  7.  (9904.7)
    Their digital releases will be the same price as the print versions.

    Regular folks not wanting to pay five bucks for five minutes of reading is a good part of their current woes. Having it on your iPad isn't going to change that. They're either going to have to drop the price significantly, or up the amount of content significantly. There are no shipping costs and no storage costs to be met. And Apple's cut can't be that big.

    That is, IF they really want it to be a jumping on point for new readers. I'm willing to bet there's something else at play (Their imminent loss of Superman? Their probably correct view that the fanboys will keep buying no matter what? A cutting-nose-off-to-spite-face attempt to kill the digital market?)
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      CommentAuthorSJD
    • CommentTimeJun 1st 2011 edited
     (9904.8)
    I work at a store and the owner doesn't think this is bad for shops, nor does he think its worth worrying about as a longtime fan. I asked him about the 50+ title launch and honestly most are taking the place of existing titles and he was quick to point out that Marvel puts out MORE titles than that every month. DC still won't touch the sheer number of books Marvel throws out every month.

    I'm not happy about this, but at least everyone is talking about DC again.
  9.  (9904.9)
    I wish I had some modicum of artistic talent so I could bring the Jim Lee redesign of John Constantine I pitched on twitter earlier today to life...
  10.  (9904.10)
    My first reaction: DC is desperate. Then, I refined this to...

    My second reaction: This will have little to no impact. This mythical audience they are seeking to lure in, this "new generation" they're looking to entice with an entry point AND day-and-date digital releases - they have no reason to jump on board. Truly. Every semester I ask my students - aged 19-25, roughly - what they read and where they get it. At least half have zero interest in superhero books, while close to 90% download them already - as scans. Day-and-date digital releases really won't change this. Again, why would someone who's been getting a product for free for months or years suddenly decide to pay $3-$5 a pop when they can STILL get it for free?

    My final reaction: I don't follow characters. I buy my books based on who's writing. Period. If that means in six months I'll be reading an Aquaman monthly by Morrison, Paul Cornell's take on the Metal Men, or Warren's take on Hawkworld - then, so be it.
  11.  (9904.11)
    Like most of I find this more interesting then anything.
    The influx of #1 won't change what I buy....though it does seem like a good place to stop collecting monthlies and switch to trades.

    As for digital release, what I'd love to see, and I have no idea on how to make this work, would be a way to get comics digitally and then a trade at a discounted price. Something like Flashpoint or Fear Itself or any "Event" comic practically begs to be read as a monthly as they so often tie into other titles. I'd love to read Flashpoint for...i dunno a dollar or 2 an issue, but then get some of that back if I wanted the trade.
    Or maybe I order the trade at full price before issue 1 ships, and I get it all digital versions as it is released, and then the trade shipped to me a few months later.
    Anyone trying anything like that?
  12.  (9904.12)
    If that means in six months I'll be reading an Aquaman monthly by Morrison, Paul Cornell's take on the Metal Men, or Warren's take on Hawkworld



    I can unequivocally guarantee you that I'm not working for DC.

    I know you were using me as an example, but I don't need it to turn into Internet Chinese Whispers...!
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      CommentAuthorNeila
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2011
     (9904.13)
    @mjmartinejohn Your tweet about the Flash sounds like it'd be an interesting book to read.

    @DavidLejeune Dare I ask what "Jim Lee's John Constantine" looks like? Does he have a high collar and a short leather biker jacket?

    I think, if DC wanted to capture "new readers" they'd need to advertise better. Not just this "Oh we're making news by relaunching EVERYTHING AT ONCE". All I've noticed, advertising wise, is stuff for Superman, Batman, and sometimes Wonder Woman. Basically any character they have a big movie coming out for or TV series pitch. I'm sure there are people out there that JUST found out that Green Lantern is a DC character. But still, they don't advertise the comics themselves that I've noticed, outside of ads in their own comics >_> that are often placed in the middle of the book, breaking up the action and making me grumpy. D: I haven't read a lot of DC comics, only a few, maybe they're not all set up that way.

    Anyway, I think there's loads of potential with the DC's cavalcade of heroes, but I'm not sure relaunching the books should be handled like pulling off a bandaid (all at once, real fast get it over with). Especially if no one out side their regular readership finds out about it. Not a lot of "non comics readers" have heard about the news of DC's relaunch from what I've noticed. But then, maybe they're just trying to get "new readers" from established comic book readers of other companies?

    I dunno, maybe the books will be less dependent on events that happened in the books in the 1980s that I didn't read? If they don't advertise though, it'd be like, "If a comic company redoes all their comics at once in the forest and there's no one to hear but their current readers, will they get new readers?"
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      CommentAuthorSonny
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2011
     (9904.14)
    Ultimately it comes down to the quality of the comics, and therefor the creative teams behind them (and probably, to some extent, the editors pushing for certain directions). If nothing changes in that sense, then this is a trivial and useless undertaking. I guess I'll reserve judgement for now.
    • CommentAuthormanglr
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2011
     (9904.15)
    I'm on the side of useless and trivial undertaking...after all, the 'hard line' between the new and old universe is only as good as the creative teams willingness not to reference the old continuity. That sort of thing (if prior reboots are any indication) is only good for a very limited amount of time.

    Plus, I'm not sure that flooding the market with 50 first issues in a month is going to do meaningful things to your sales. It may even hurt books like Batwoman who may get lost in the shuffle.

    But again, I'm not playing the game any longer anyway...so good luck and more power to them.
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  17.  (9904.17)
    Azzarello and Chiang on Wonder Woman sounds good. Their Doctor Thirteen was superb. The rest don't excite me.
  18.  (9904.18)
    The very definition of wait and see, I think. Spurgeon nailed my gut feeling, too. I'm queasy rather than pumped.

    That said, I'm stoked that Azzarello is on Wonder Woman. Where he'll go with it, I don't know, but I trust he's got a story to tell.
    • CommentAuthorPow
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2011
     (9904.19)
    hurrah, even if all the books suck there will be 2 series worth of JT Krul instanity to enjoy on Scans_daily
  20.  (9904.20)
    Rich Johnston's reporting that Duane Swierczynski will be writing the new Batman comic.

    All of the sudden, this whole thing sounds like a perfectly good idea to me, thank you.

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