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    I never thought you were.

    Here's a photo that was both cropped, and breaks the rules of composition as I understand them.

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      CommentAuthorCOOP
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2011
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    What's wrong with the composition? The eye follows the arc of the straw down to the subject. That's how you're supposed to do it.
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      CommentAuthorCOOP
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2011
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      CommentAuthorCOOP
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2011
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    L1004557.jpg

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    What's wrong with the composition? The eye follows the arc of the straw down to the subject.


    That was my view on it when I cropped. But Rule of Thirds is more important than everything, donchyuknow? Her head should be in the meeting point. Tsk, tsk, me.
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      CommentAuthorCOOP
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2011
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    Rule of thirds is bullshit. Except when it isn't.
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      CommentAuthorbarton
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2011
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    Yeah, learn the rules so's you can break em effectively. BTW COOP, your take on photography being informed by your painting makes a lot of sense. For me the dark room and digital processing add a small painterly element to photography, so in a sense we're on the same line just headed in opposite directions.
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    Photobucket
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      CommentAuthoroldhat
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2011
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    • CommentAuthorBankara
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2011
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    Wow, I went away for a couple of days to get away from the blinky screen and go rock climbing and camping with my phone turned off and I feel now like I started a flaming thread. Kind of like waking up in the back of an ambulance looking thru the back window at a flaming apartment block and the last thing you remember is being sleepy and smoking in bed...

    That said, I love that this thread can tolerate the fact there are a variety of opinions as to how the medium should be approached and that there is respect for everyone's different techniques. If you want to understand how rare and valuable something like that is go weigh in on a topic over on photo.net and watch the hacks there fucking shred each other to pieces over questions less sensitive than these. Forum questions asking about what type of film was used or how much push or pull was applied can result in eviscerating comments aimed squarely at the yarbles.

    So, in Summation: @oldhat is made of win here
    "Whether people prefer to work completely in-camera or work on the photos extensively in post, I think we can all agree that the folks on either side who feel they are superior because of that choice are GIANT douchebags. Yes? Yes?"
    YES YES YES YES!!!!!

    @Alana, nice work again!

    @dispophoto, I agree that the constraints of how much editing is acceptable in photojournalism can be a drag. It is why I quit. Crop and color balance are the only acceptable forms of editing. I think that restraints can be liberating when you are working because they force you to be creative and to do more with less but I found the restraints of traditional photojournalism to be too stringent for me to bear.

    @Coop, I am also a huge fan of Cartier-Bresson. His work is amazing, his frames are all in camera right to the edge and the black lines around it are a signal that no cropping has been done. The fact that he achieved those results with a Rangefinder camera is all the more impressive once you have used one and know just how damn hard it is to get anything right. I know that you favor his camera of choice and your results are also pretty damn amazing, my friend. The shots presented here are no exception. Also, I have been digging the Fuji-Roids, more please!
    My only problem with Cartier-Bresson is that he took his philosophy of non-editing so far that he never once worked in a darkroom. He never even developed his own film. He worked with the same darkroom technician for 40 years and told him exactly what he wanted and never set foot in the darkroom himself. He was also independently wealthy and somewhat resented by his peers at Magnum who could not afford to self-fund trips to Russia, China, and India on their own dime and then sell the pictures to Time Magazine at a loss. He represents for me a purity of technique that is available only to those that can afford to be pure above all other considerations. I love his work but I always remember that his philosophy surrounding it was a luxury.

    My hero is WeeGee the famous. He was a Romanian-born New Yorker and an unrepentant bastard.

    On an unrelated note, I agree with your take on @William.George's picture. The lines do exactly what a photograph is supposed to.

    Also, fuck the rule of thirds with a chainsaw.

    For myself, I go back and forth on all of these issues of philosophy. I always shoot manual, never auto. I try to get everything I see within the frame that I capture and I shoot enough to make sure that my ass is covered with plenty of variety to choose the best shot. I try to employ a light hand in editing, mostly curves and color. However, I do love my Lightroom presets to make some shots that I feel are sort of 'meh' feel more like what it was that I was going for when I pressed the shutter. Often I find myself choosing the technical best photographs for my early proofs and as I live with the shoot for longer I revisit and find things I missed the first time around because I dismissed them out-of-hand because of a minor (ok, sometimes major) flaw and I take them into Photoshop. These frequently become my favorites and I get huge reactions from people and I am then ashamed to admit that they were rejects that I 'shopped extensively to achieve an entirely different look in order to salvage a shot I flubbed when I pressed the shutter.

    There is no right way to do this thing, in my humble opinion. You just do, and then you do some more, If no one tells you to stop and in fact people start offering to pay you to continue then you do some more and you consider yourself incredibly fucking lucky. Someday it all makes sense when you see a clear thru line in your contact sheets. Until then your opinion of your own work is just conjecture, same as everybody else's. Get over yourself and go out and shoot.
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      CommentAuthorphotomagex
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2011
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    Here's some photos I took in my wife's garden. An yes there was some cropping going on.



    I am amazed by the vibrant colours found in nature.



    And the symmetry in nature is just as incredible.



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      CommentAuthorphotomagex
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2011
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    Here's one to trigger some nightmares. It is actually a very simple photoshop technique.



    Those are my wife's teeth by the way.
    • CommentAuthorHenchbot
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2011
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    Summer in Seattle...

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      CommentAuthorsmileyfish
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2011
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    Have lost my photo-mojo lately, but finally dragged the camera out again this week.

    Blue Monday

    It's winter here. There was snow to 150 m the morning I took this.
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      CommentAuthorVornaskotti
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2011 edited
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    • CommentAuthorBankara
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2011 edited
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    Buzzers in my sister's building in Brooklyn. Looks like something out of a mid-60's computer lab to me. Fuji Reala 100 film emulator applied.
    This shot just made it to the boingboing front page. I am pretty psyched!

    EEM01-13
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    First post

    Waiting for the lights to change
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    Liquefying in Greece - June 2011

    A view of mount Athos from Halkidiki, Platanitsi beach.



    A lost heart on the bottom of the sea.



    Upwards, towards the light.

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      CommentAuthordispophoto
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2011
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    view from my hotel in DUrban, South Africa:

    Duban, South Africa

    gotta sign off, internet costs me my firstborn here at the hotel.
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    @Vornaskotti That undersea heart looks otherwordly. Do you know what it is?