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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T15:40:29-07:00</published>
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			<name>Greasemonkey</name>
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			So. One of our topics of conversation on Saturday night was the whitewashing (replacing non-white characters with white actors) of great cinematic or TV art. M. Night Shyamalan's 'The Last Airbender' ...
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			<![CDATA[So. One of our topics of conversation on Saturday night was the whitewashing (replacing non-white characters with white actors) of great cinematic or TV art. M. Night Shyamalan's 'The Last Airbender' is a classic example, along with the in-production live action version of Akira (which, unbelievably, retains the original Japanese names even though the entire cast is white).<br /><br />I have to ask - what are your thoughts on this? Are Western audiences really so shallow that we have to see white people in every lead role for a film to be successful? What the fuck is going on?]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T16:24:33-07:00</published>
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			<name>Robson</name>
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			Are Western audiences really so shallow that we have to see white people in every lead role for a film to be successful?

I think many producers believe that this is the case - Hollywood is as ...
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			<![CDATA[<em >Are Western audiences really so shallow that we have to see white people in every lead role for a film to be successful?</em><br /><br />I think many producers <em >believe</em> that this is the case - Hollywood is as conservative as an industry can be, and so you won't see as many non-famous/non-white actors in leads of movies that are expected to make a profit. Given that this is most movies, <br /><br />In terms of representation, Justin Lin's FAST FIVE may well be the most important movie at the multiplex right now. The loud and appreciative audience I saw it with seemed to have no problem with the incredibly diverse cast, and it doesn't seem that enough people are offended by, say, (spoiler) <div id="hide" >Han Lue getting the girl at the end</div> to dissuade others from seeing it through negative word of mouth (the film's $200+ million take at the box office suggests that the audience aren't staying away from the film, despite its largely non-white cast). It would be grand indeed if Hollywood would take the hint from this and open up casting to a larger proportion of non-white actors (particularly in films like AKIRA, where you'd expect few, if any, white actors to appear).]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T16:40:31-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>SBarrett</name>
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			It's even worse than that, imo.

Excellent movies like Let the Right One In and Girl With the Dragon Tattoo are getting remade only a few years after their initial release for American audiences. ...
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			<![CDATA[It's even worse than that, imo.<br /><br />Excellent movies like <em >Let the Right One In</em> and <em >Girl With the Dragon Tattoo</em> are getting remade only a few years after their initial release for American audiences. Makes no sense to me.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T17:18:00-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>kperkins</name>
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			Huh, remember when Nick Fury used to be white?
But seriously, no.  The Last Airbender was a bad call, and showed us some people's thinking, but it, also did poorly at the box office (maybe because ...
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			<![CDATA[Huh, remember when Nick Fury used to be white?<br />But seriously, no.  The Last Airbender was a bad call, and showed us <em >some</em> people's thinking, but it, also did poorly at the box office (maybe because audiences aren't so shallow), and was, by all accounts, <em >not</em> a great movie.<br />I can think of several great movies that had diverse, or mostly non-white casts.<br />Precious<br />Slumdog Millionaire<br />American Gangster<br />The Last King of Scotland<br />Ghost Dog (speaking of Forrest Whitaker)<br />etc.<br /><br />Of course, I'm sure there are other movies like Airbender, although I can't think of any, and there are certainly many movies with all white, or mostly white casts, I think that using Airbender as a rallying point to say that Western audiences are shallow is short sighted at best.<br /><br />I see shallowness reflected more in the need for stupid, inane comedies, and reality TV shows.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T18:22:56-07:00</published>
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		<author>
			<name>256</name>
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			Honestly, if the worst thing about an M. Night Shyam(insert joke mispelling)alan film is the colour of the actors, I'd consider that a miracle. 

Did a quick search - can't see any info on the cast ...
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			<![CDATA[Honestly, if the worst thing about an M. Night Shyam(insert joke mispelling)alan film is the colour of the actors, I'd consider that a miracle. <br /><br />Did a quick search - can't see any info on the cast of Akira. Other than Keanu Reeves dropping out (as, apparently, has the possible director, Albert Hughes). Has anyone got any inside tips?<br /><br />Also, do we really need to talk about the US-remake-of-a-recent-foreign-film thing again? Shameful though it may be, the logic and economics are obvious and inescapable.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T19:26:15-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>Neila</name>
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			I didn't go see Shymalan's &quot;Airbender&quot; because they white washed the cast. It really pisses me off when people do that to a movie. D:
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			<![CDATA[I didn't go see Shymalan's "Airbender" because they white washed the cast. It really pisses me off when people do that to a movie. D:]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T20:50:09-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>William George</name>
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			I didn't go see it because it looked like shit trying to use FX to pass itself off as diamonds. I had no attachment to the original material.
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			<![CDATA[I didn't go see it because it looked like shit trying to use FX to pass itself off as diamonds. I had no attachment to the original material.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T21:14:56-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>Rootfireember</name>
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			Ghost Dog was a good movie!  

I do think that hollywood DOES have an issue with non-white actors in leading roles. Hell. I think it has an issue with them in marginal roles too; at least from what ...
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			<![CDATA[Ghost Dog was a good movie!  <br /><br />I do think that hollywood DOES have an issue with non-white actors in leading roles. Hell. I think it has an issue with them in marginal roles too; at least from what I've read, it's become increasingly hard for non-white actors to get jobs there, or non-white screenwriters, etc. :(<br /><br />Which totally sucks. Because race and ethnicity do not make one a better or worse writer or actor.<br /><br />I don't think that people are so shallow as to not be able to enjoy a movie with mostly non-white actors. I think it's a hollywood thing, and from what I understand, a lot of hollywood stuff is funded by conservative old men. Very conservative old men, who think (and are sure they are Right, regardless of facts) that all we want to see are whitewashed movies in the english language. Because they hold the purse strings, they can be influential in what gets made. I think the studio system is a bit fucked up.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T21:45:29-07:00</published>
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			<name>Warped Savant</name>
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			It also doesn't help that film schools in the States teach their students that for a movie to be successful they need to cast the lead role as a white male.
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			<![CDATA[It also doesn't help that film schools in the States teach their students that for a movie to be successful they need to cast the lead role as a white male.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-06T22:13:01-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-06T22:15:40-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>FC</name>
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			As an Asian myself, I do notice whitewashing as a major part of the Black and White bias in media. It's slowly getting better, but I weigh it heavily on all Western media I come across. While I'll ...
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			<![CDATA[As an Asian myself, I do notice whitewashing as a major part of the Black and White bias in media. It's slowly getting better, but I weigh it heavily on all Western media I come across. While I'll take what entertainment I can get, it's often hard for me to connect on an emotional level. To be honest, pretty much every new show trailer i've watched this year so far has failed to interest me for this reason.  One might almost be led to believe Asians are incapable of playing lead roles, which certainly isn't true.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-07T00:33:37-07:00</published>
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			<name>Talesin</name>
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			Yeah I think its the studios perception of what people (particularly American audiences) want. Same reason why we had Carradine instead of Bruce Lee in Kung Fu. I can't believe that the majority of ...
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			<![CDATA[Yeah I think its the studios perception of what people (particularly American audiences) want. Same reason why we had Carradine instead of Bruce Lee in Kung Fu. I can't believe that the majority of the movie going public wants European actors over suitable actors of whatever ethnicity.  <br /><br />On a kind of semi related note I can remember when my sister did some acting in some American tv she had to do an American accent, because obviously people can't accept people speaking in other accents (funny thing was it was set in ancient Greece so who cares if they speak with a Kiwi accent or American its not going to be exactly realistic).<br /><br />In that regard one of my pet peeves: movies or tv shows from the states where people with slight accents who are easily understood have subtitles for what they are saying.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-07T02:36:24-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-07T02:37:09-07:00</updated>
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			<name>Alan Tyson</name>
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			who are easily understood by most people, except for the vast swathes of double-digit-I.Q. fuckwits watching American TV who can barely understand English, let alone anyone speaking it as a second ...
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote >who are easily understood <em >by most people, except for the vast swathes of double-digit-I.Q. fuckwits watching American TV who can barely understand English, let alone anyone speaking it as a second language</em></blockquote><br /><br />Fixed it for you. And, let's not forget that everyone with a British accent must either be the sarcastically funny smart friend, or full-on moohoohaha EVIL.<br /><br />Actually, that brings up a question - Do British TV/movies have a similar problem? It seems like the UK is a little more civilized about this sort of thing, but then again I don't watch nearly enough British TV/film to have a decent information set.]]>
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		<published>2011-06-07T03:10:19-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-07T03:11:28-07:00</updated>
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			<name>MagicSword!</name>
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			I'm not going to disagree with anything anyone's saying about the shallow fecklessness of Hollywood and so on, I think there should be more, and better roles for non-white actors in Western movies ...
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			<![CDATA[I'm not going to disagree with anything anyone's saying about the shallow fecklessness of Hollywood and so on, I think there should be more, and better roles for non-white actors in Western movies too, and no role should be 'whitenized' to pander to people. But I would like to play Devil's advocate a little with regards to Akira.<br /><br />Let's say this remake of Akira, which everyone has been getting astonishingly worked up about, is based on the original story but is heavily altered. Let's say Neo LA rather than Neo Tokyo, or Neo New York or whatever (EDIT - just googled it and it's Neo Manhattan). Then... well why would they need to cast Asian actors? The Last Airbender thing, since it seems to have been set in this mystic world heavily influenced by Asian culture, doesn't have the same defence, but is there really anything <em >ethically</em>wrong with taking a story from another culture and altering it to put your own take on it? Y'know, I bet there's a great argument to be made that, post 9/11 the American mass-psyche has actually been brought closer to that of the Japanese people, for whom natural disasters and the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have fueled a lot of pop culture...<br /><br />Frankly, I'm skeptical that the damn thing's ever going to get made since it still has no stars, and now no director, but the point that a lot of people are latching on to is that they're keeping the names Japanese. If it's set in America, with American actors then that's stupid and weird, but I don't think it's necessarily 'whitewashing' in this case.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-07T03:23:01-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>nick3pointone4</name>
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			keanu's only half white, so i guess that's something.  the other half is basically asian/hawaiian mutt like most of us on the islands.
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			<![CDATA[keanu's only half white, so i guess that's something.  the other half is basically asian/hawaiian mutt like most of us on the islands.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T07:14:57-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-09T02:25:44-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>Ben Gwalchmai</name>
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			@ Alan Tyson - we've had enough years of Caribbean immigration, multi-culturalism and down-right having the old Empire kicked the 20th Century the shit out of us to be humble enough to take our ...
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			<![CDATA[@ Alan Tyson - we've had enough years of Caribbean immigration, multi-culturalism and down-right having the old Empire kicked the 20th Century the shit out of us to be humble enough to take our heroes/anti-heroes where we can get them now.<br /><br />See: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00s8jk0" >Luther</a><br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hjhdh" >Moses Jones</a><br />[eta: there are some quality films about Brixton with positive-black leads, also. e.g. Attack The Block]<br /><br />But I could be overstating things as I don't actually have a TV, I just occasionally stream.<br /><br />Just adding to the debate...]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T09:24:44-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>arklight</name>
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			One thing i can't understand is when the yanks remake/re-do UK TV shows or Movies
for the American market.

It's as if the fact we all speak English is STILL too alien for them.


So it's no ...
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			<![CDATA[One thing i can't understand is when the yanks remake/re-do UK TV shows or Movies<br />for the American market.<br /><br /><strong >It's as if the fact we all speak English is STILL too alien for them.</strong><br /><br /><br />So it's no surprise then when they get something as foreign <br />as an Asian movie like Akira that they want to redo all of it.<br /><br />In the UK we watch US movies as they are, and dubbing foreign <br />movies is almost always a no-no,subtitles dominate. <br /><br />The only exception might be Americanized anime imports where they<br /> have re-dubbed the Asian anime movie with American star actors.<br />A good example being Studio Ghibli films.<br /><br />It's all strange because you'd think a country that is basically composed of the entire<br />world like America should have more flexibility towards other cultures<br /> and take them as they are. But that's not the case.<br /><br />You can insert your Spike Lee <strong >"that all depends on the dominating culture"</strong><br />rant right here...<br /><br /><br />Heri Mkocha<br />http://www.youtube.com/thearklight]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T20:11:37-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>Rootfireember</name>
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			I just hope they never do a remake of Pan's Labyrinth.
And the remake of Let the Right One In -while not a horrid movie- just seemed unnecessary to me.
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			<![CDATA[I just hope they never do a remake of Pan's Labyrinth.<br />And the remake of Let the Right One In -while not a horrid movie- just seemed unnecessary to me.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T20:17:17-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>Neila</name>
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			I recently heard they're wanting to make an American remake of &quot;The Host&quot;, which I wont go see, like all the other remakes I didn't go see.

@Rootfireember Noooooo! Don't give them ideas! ...
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			<![CDATA[I recently heard they're wanting to make an American remake of "The Host", which I wont go see, like all the other remakes I didn't go see.<br /><br />@Rootfireember Noooooo! Don't give them ideas! D: remake of Pan's Labyrinth would take place in the American Civil War, and Pan would be named "Mister goat face" ono Ahh, now I'm giving them ideas. D: D: D: D:]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T20:35:11-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>BrianMowrey</name>
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			Let the Right One in and its five or so minutes of actual dialogue very much did not need to be remade.

Akira isnt as compact and self-complete and a remake can take it places, and I'm not opposed ...
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			<![CDATA[<em >Let the Right One in</em> and its five or so minutes of actual dialogue very much did not need to be remade.<br /><br /><em >Akira</em> isnt as compact and self-complete and a remake can take it places, and I'm not opposed to any amount of cultural translation in the process -- though an all-white cast sounds like no one's behind the wheel who's going to bring clever ideas to the project.<br /><br />I wouldn't watch the movie because of my fondness for the source material either way. I would watch it if it seemed to be doing it's own thing very well. But the movie's free to be a piece of shit.<br /><br />More alt content exists and is readily available to any random kid with an Internet connection than the history of moving pictures; more movies with non-western leads and non-English audio is being watched by the anglophone world than ever; I don't get the recurring obsession over what ideas big American studios are squandering at the given moment. Hollywood is a cultural write-off.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T20:38:23-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>BrianMowrey</name>
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			@Neila

How about Sharkpony's Labyrinth?
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			<![CDATA[@Neila<br /><br />How about <em >Sharkpony's Labyrinth</em>?]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-08T23:00:55-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>James Puckett</name>
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		<summary type="text" xml:lang="en">
			One thing i can't understand is when the yanks remake/re-do UK TV shows or Movies for the American market…It's as if the fact we all speak English is STILL too alien for them.

Americans can't ...
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			<![CDATA[<em >One thing i can't understand is when the yanks remake/re-do UK TV shows or Movies for the American market…It's as if the fact we all speak English is STILL too alien for them.</em><br /><br />Americans can't always understand what British and Scottish actors are saying. There are some pretty thick accents and godawful sound mixes on British television. I rarely get through an hour-long British show without missing some mucky dialogue.<br /><br />And because the UK isn't producing nearly as many movies and TV shows as the US does less is exported and Americans are much less familiar with the UK than the UK is with the USA. The same phenomenon happens with India. Bollywood movies are dubbed and watched all over the world and people in, for example, Russia got used to it. But you don't see much Russian entertainment in India.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T00:17:41-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>scs</name>
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			We need more folks like Kenneth Branaugh with his color-blind, accent-deaf casting.
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			<![CDATA[We need more folks like Kenneth Branaugh with his color-blind, accent-deaf casting.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T02:40:00-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>razrangel</name>
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		<summary type="text" xml:lang="en">
			At a little bit of a tangent: Ta-Nehisi Coates commented on how the new X-Men movie, set in the culturally tumultuous 1960s, somehow left out all of the racial parts that made the 1960s interesting, ...
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			<![CDATA[At a little bit of a tangent: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/opinion/09coates.html?_r=2&hp" >Ta-Nehisi Coates</a> commented on how the new X-Men movie, set in the culturally tumultuous 1960s, somehow left out all of the racial parts that made the 1960s interesting, instead having them face the already defeated bugaboo of Nazism.<br /><br />Coates' thesis has more to do with a current trend in the U.S. (not throughout, just in a few painfully prominent places) to avoid talking about embarrassing points in our history.<br /><br />That I definitely see.  Give or take.  It dovetails nicely on a blog I read earlier today taking on Pixar for low scores in liberated female roles.  I don't entirely agree with the Pixar one, though I see the trend.  All in all, it does bespeak a certain amount of cowardice and imaginative myopia.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T03:56:11-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-09T03:58:47-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>arklight</name>
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			Americans can't always understand what British and Scottish actors are saying. There are some pretty 
thick accents and godawful sound mixes on British television. I rarely get through an hour-long ...
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote >Americans can't always understand what British and Scottish actors are saying. There are some pretty <br />thick accents and godawful sound mixes on British television. I rarely get through an hour-long British <br />show without missing some mucky dialogue.</blockquote><br /><br /><strong >@James Puckett</strong><br /><br />But we get the same experience with US imports. We just get over it and usually try to understand.<br /><br />America has a huge amount of accents, The impenetrable southern drawl, <br />.The complex street culture of "The Wire". There are kids in London <br />driving around blasting music that is only heard around the<br /> "dirty south" of the united states and nowhere else. And they know <br />all the lyrics....<br /><br />As for the Bollywood thing, there is every year a Bollywood season of some kind<br />on one of the main 5 British Channels we all receive in the late evening, <br />which are subtitled and shown in their full length.<br /><br />As well as usually some kind of Asian cinema season[J-Horror, K-Horror, Hong Kong Action]<br />these are also usually on the main channels not just film channels or subscription channels.<br /><br />I still need to get round to seeing, but <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2011/jan/21/the-killing-bbc-police-drama-women" >The Killing</a> is a Scandinavian cult hit on BBC4.<br /><br /><br /><strong >But there seems to be a resistance to the outside world on US TV.</strong><br /><br /><br />We get huge chunks of American TV and if you have satellite or Cable,you get alot of<br />US channels as they are. Not just programs.<br /><br />It all seems strange because every 2 years or so some UK reporter/star/celeb/commentator <br />takes a <a href="http://eyerex.blogspot.com/2008/02/dave-gorman-in-america-unchained.html" >road trip </a>documentary tour of the states , Stephen Fry being the last one,and <br />what they report back is always the huge cultural and ethnic diversity of the country. <br /><br /><br /><strong >Stephen Fry in America - "Voodoo"</strong><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-eV17m4Vi4" ></a><br /><br />Which you'd think would give them no problem in absorbing culture from <br />the outside world into their mainstream.<br /><br /><br /><strong >As for the Sound of UK programmes, i'm an Audio Visual guy.</strong><br /><br /><br />The problems are on technical points....going from the UK <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL#PAL_vs._NTSC" >PAL </a>system to<br />American <a href="http://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/pal-vs-ntsc-1" >NTSC (Never The Same Color-as techies call it) </a>are many. <br /><br />Secondly the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/" >BBC's </a>technical omnipotence especially in Research has given<br />rise to some rough standards across the UK industry and there will be<a href="http://tech.ebu.ch/loudness" > a new European<br /> wide standard</a> on Sound and "loudness". <br /><br />America is made of a multiple private channels and networks which have standards<br />on sound that change from channel to channel and <a href="http://www.gearslutz.com/board/post-production-forum/229741-standard-mixing-levels-movie-theater-dvd-broadcast-tv-commercials-etc.html" >each submission might have <br />to be tweaked for each one</a>. The Channel compressor, the piece of kit that each channel has which<br />keeps their programs at a pre-requisite loudness so you don't have to reach for the volume on your remote all the time<br />can be very unique and may colour the sound. Altering the tone and intelligibility of the<br /> original material. Especially if it has been optimized for making American dialogue clearer<br />and maybe not other dialogue and how they mangle their words from other nations.<br /><br />I've sat through mind numbing seminars about this stuff. Then when it goes online,<br />the encoder of the streaming channel massacres the audio all over again...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Heri Mkocha<br />http://www.youtube.com/thearklight]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T12:10:00-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>256</name>
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		<summary type="text" xml:lang="en">
			Relevant: &quot;You Left Out the Part About...&quot; by Ta-Nehisi Coates in the NYT, on the failure of X-Men: First Class to address the era of equal rights in which it is set. Worth reading.
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			<![CDATA[Relevant: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/opinion/09coates.html?_r=2&hp" >"You Left Out the Part About..." by Ta-Nehisi Coates</a> in the NYT, on the failure of X-Men: First Class to address the era of equal rights in which it is set. Worth reading.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T13:09:39-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>izenmania</name>
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			We need more folks like Kenneth Branaugh with his color-blind, accent-deaf casting.

Which still doesn't solve the other problem he shares with the makers of A(meri)kira: casting Keanu Reeves in ...
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote >We need more folks like Kenneth Branaugh with his color-blind, accent-deaf casting.</blockquote><br /><br />Which still doesn't solve the other problem he shares with the makers of A(meri)kira: casting Keanu Reeves in stuff.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T15:28:57-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>BOODOFFSTAGE</name>
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			I just object to anyone casting Keanu Reeves in anything.

As for Hollywood, it does what it does best. Make Money.  

In about 10 years, The minority population will become a majority in this ...
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			<![CDATA[I just object to anyone casting Keanu Reeves in anything.<br /><br />As for Hollywood, it does what it does best. Make Money.  <br /><br />In about 10 years, The minority population will become a majority in this country. Hollywood will adapt accordingly and this whitewashing thing will go away.<br /><br />Time is the only factor that will make America a true melting pot.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T15:51:42-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-09T15:51:50-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>D.J.</name>
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			#donaldglover4spiderman
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			<![CDATA[#donaldglover4spiderman]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T16:12:13-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>icelandbob</name>
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			Let's not forget when Brannagh tried to act all Swedish in his version of &quot;Wallander&quot;, when there was a perfectly brilliant actual Swedish version (which eventually aired on BBC4).
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			<![CDATA[Let's not forget when Brannagh tried to act all Swedish in his version of "Wallander", when there was a perfectly brilliant actual Swedish version (which eventually aired on BBC4).]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T18:03:22-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>SBarrett</name>
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			On the subject of not understanding Brittish/Scottish/Accents, I had to watch The Wind that Shakes the Barley with subtitles. Couldn't understand a damned thing.

At the same time, I live in the ...
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			<![CDATA[On the subject of not understanding Brittish/Scottish/Accents, I had to watch <em >The Wind that Shakes the Barley</em> with subtitles. Couldn't understand a damned thing.<br /><br />At the same time, I live in the American South. Lived here most of my life. I still have trouble understanding that deep southern accent.]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-09T19:47:21-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
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			<name>HEY APATHY!</name>
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			Not physically white washed because Dutch people are white too but the remake of THE VANISHING was about as psychically whitewashed as you can get…

( IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE DUTCH VERSION ...
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			<![CDATA[Not physically white washed because Dutch people are white too but the remake of THE VANISHING was about as psychically whitewashed as you can get…<br /><br />( IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE DUTCH VERSION DON'T READ THIS.  GO RENT/DOWNLOAD IT  INSTEAD IT’S SCARY AS HELL)<br /><br />From Wikipedia:<br /><div id="hide" > Jeff wakes up to find he has been buried alive in a coffin.<br /><br />At that point the original film ended. The remake continues as follows:<br /><br />Jeff is revived and is able to climb out of the grave and kill his tormentor with the shovel he had used to bury Jeff and Diane. The remake ends with Jeff and Rita back together, selling the story as a novel to a publishing company.</div>]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-10T17:12:57-07:00</published>
		<updated>2011-06-10T17:14:04-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>MagicSword!</name>
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			Not whitewashing, but this should inspire a few facepalms from folks in this thread:

Troll Hunter already getting a remake

Chris Columbus: “Troll Hunter was a visceral, thrilling cinematic ...
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			<![CDATA[Not whitewashing, but this should inspire a few facepalms from folks in this thread:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.avclub.com/articles/troll-hunter-already-getting-a-remake,57380/" >Troll Hunter already getting a remake</a><br /><br />Chris Columbus: “Troll Hunter was a visceral, thrilling cinematic rock and roller coaster ride of a movie. Visually, there are scenes in this film that American audiences have never seen. We want to introduce an international audience to this amazing moviegoing experience!"<br /><br />To which the AV Club writes "some would argue that introduction has already been accomplished by, you know, releasing the original in international theaters and on video, like it just was today. But we suppose copying it with American actors is another way to go about it."]]>
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		<title>Whitewashing great movies.</title>
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		<published>2011-06-11T08:18:20-07:00</published>
		<updated>2013-05-24T07:50:54-07:00</updated>
		<author>
			<name>munin218</name>
			<uri>http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=246</uri>
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			I'm annoyed any time movies/shows are remade, or books/comics are made for screen and they change the characters. I don't care if it's whitewashing or forced multiculturalism or casting someone who ...
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			<![CDATA[I'm annoyed any time movies/shows are remade, or books/comics are made for screen and they change the characters. I don't care if it's whitewashing or forced multiculturalism or casting someone who can't do a proper accent for the character. If you can't find the proper person to do the damn thing, you didn't look very hard.]]>
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