2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300024#Comment_300024 2011-07-01T19:12:44-07:00 2011-07-02T01:17:38-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

In this thread, beat poetry. Like it? Want to do it? Already doing it? Hints and tips for someone who wants to start.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300026#Comment_300026 2011-07-01T19:30:31-07:00 2011-07-01T19:32:57-07:00 Ben Johnson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4951

Well... and: Del Close And a chaser:

and: Del Close

And a chaser:

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300082#Comment_300082 2011-07-02T08:12:27-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 infomancer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5161

Beat poetry is some of the only poetry I can still read. Everything else seems so forced, like the authors chose from a list of poetry-words to make it sound extra poemy. As far as tips for ...

As far as tips for writing in the same vein, I think listening is the biggest thing. Even at its most disjointed, Beat verse was really focused on rhythm. Listen to Ginsberg and Kerouac read, there's some great recordings of them. Corso, too, with his weird voice. Listen to a lot of Bird, Dizzy, and Monk, whose bop jazz work informed a lot of the rhythm of the original Beat poetry. Of course, I'm not suggesting that you write within the Jazz context necessarily, that would just make your work sound like theirs. But it's helpful to see the way they translated their total environment into their work. To really get at what their point was, I think you'd have to write with your own context in mind, to get into your own rhythms.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300086#Comment_300086 2011-07-02T08:19:03-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 government spy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6088

I just liked Mike Meyers in So I Married an Ax Murderer.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300102#Comment_300102 2011-07-02T11:03:43-07:00 2011-07-02T13:09:01-07:00 Verissimus http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3379

Bad poetry with a rock star attitude? No thanks. edit: disregard! Sorry for being an ass. Ginsberg was quite awesome.

No thanks.

edit: disregard! Sorry for being an ass. Ginsberg was quite awesome.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300115#Comment_300115 2011-07-02T13:12:22-07:00 2011-07-02T20:21:46-07:00 Soviet Rocket No. 9 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8855

Jack FUCKING Kerouac Or "The Day the Saucers Came" by Mr. Gaiman "Instructions" by Mr. Gaiman Apologies for posting Mr. Gaiman, I misread it as BEST poetry thread.

Jack FUCKING Kerouac

Or

"The Day the Saucers Came" by Mr. Gaiman

"Instructions" by Mr. Gaiman

Apologies for posting Mr. Gaiman, I misread it as BEST poetry thread.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300128#Comment_300128 2011-07-02T15:14:26-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 Will Ellwood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2556

Not a beat poet, but a proto beat, you might want to look up William Carlos Williams.

William Carlos Williams.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300218#Comment_300218 2011-07-03T02:42:43-07:00 2011-07-03T02:43:35-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

This is my spoken word piece about a kiss in a punk club. It is beat influenced. Beatish. I also need to practice it a little more.

I also need to practice it a little more.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300297#Comment_300297 2011-07-03T13:50:05-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 D- http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6218

this?

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300304#Comment_300304 2011-07-03T14:41:16-07:00 2011-07-03T14:42:30-07:00 lucien http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7742

well, here's the vastly underappreciated kenneth patchen, whose best work is not on youtube. as far as tips go, i've been a poim monkey for awhile and been to my fair share of the open ...

as far as tips go, i've been a poim monkey for awhile and been to my fair share of the open mics and what have you. i have to say that as much as i like some of the original beat stuff i get pretty tired of hearing people cop that style for their own work. seems all one hears is the beat style, the hip hop style, or the slam style all of which get old pretty quick as far as i'm concerned and tend to detract from actual poetry which is about giving voice to the breath of life that moves through you, for lack of a better way of putting it. if you're serious about poetry i'd recommend cultivating that capacity rather than doing beat poetry, but hell, whatever floats your boat.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300371#Comment_300371 2011-07-04T04:54:53-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

A rather old video of me doing my thing. I consider myself a beat poet I guess.

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@lucien Good call on Kenneth Patchen. If you were looking to write in the Beat style, it might be helpful to look at some of the people that may be considered as proto or kinda pre-Beat. People ...

If you were looking to write in the Beat style, it might be helpful to look at some of the people that may be considered as proto or kinda pre-Beat. People like Kenneth Rexroth, Galway Kinnel, WS Merwin, Denise Levertov. All post WWII poets writing what's loosely defined as open form.

There are two really great collections - Naked Poetry: Recent American Poetry in Open Forms (1969) and New Naked Poetry (1976). Ginsberg is in there, too. So are a lot of others writing in that era.

edited to include this link to book info: About Naked Poetry]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300856#Comment_300856 2011-07-06T23:42:06-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 Dovryn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2562

Storm

Storm ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300860#Comment_300860 2011-07-07T00:00:44-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 oddbill http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4272

I love that Minchin piece.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9995&Focus=300880#Comment_300880 2011-07-07T04:16:55-07:00 2013-05-20T12:51:07-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

Very good pointers here and damn, actually Storm was the thing that got the very old idea of trying something like this running again for me. Brilliant stuff.